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Ilford Harman Direct Positive Fiber Based (FB) Paper (4 x 5", Glossy , 25 Sheets)

B&H # ILDPF4525G Mfr # 1171158
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Product Highlights
  • 'Positive' Paper-No Need For a Negative
  • Fiber Baryta Base
  • 225 gsm
  • Genuine Silver Gelatine Photo Paper
  • Fixed Grade, High Contrast
  • Slow ISO Speed (Around ISO 3)

This is a 25 sheet box of Direct Positive Fiber Based (FB) Paper from Harman. It is a fun paper that can be used for many purposes. For the pinhole enthusiast, this paper is the answer to achieving a finished, positive print without the need of a traditional negative or inter-negative. This paper can also be used in large format photography or even when cut into small sheets for LOMO-type cameras.

As a creative tool, Direct Positive Paper can be used in the creation of interesting photograms of everyday items. Just cut it up into whatever size you need and you're ready to make an exposure. Finally, you can also use this paper as a traditional printing paper using a negative.

Multiple use paper for everything from pinhole to large format and LOMO photography
Does not require the need for a negative
Fully compatible with conventional black and white paper processing chemistry
Available in a glossy surface (comparable to Ilford Multigrade IV RC Glossy) and a Luster surface (comparable to Ilford Multigrade IV RC Pearl)
Fixed grade, high contrast paper (similar to Ilford Multigrade grade 3.5 - 4), but still capable of generating good tonal gradations when 'pre-flashed' during exposure stages
Process Type Black & white chemistry
Base Type Fiber based
Tone Bright white base, with rich blacks
Weight Medium weight, 225g/m2
Contrast Similar to Ilford Multigrade 3.5 - 4
Surface Finish Glossy
Safelight Compatibility Unexposed paper must only be used with an Ortho (deep red) safelight such as the Ilford 906 that contains a 15W bulb or equivalent. Ilford advises that the light be a minimum of 1.2 m/4' from the paper at all times

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IlfordHarman Direct Positive Fiber Based (FB) Paper (4 x 5", Glossy , 25 Sheets)
 
4.7

(based on 11 reviews)

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    • Photography (6)
    • Developing (3)
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      • Semi-pro photographer (4), Photo enthusiast (3), Pro photographer (3)
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    5.0

    A Request to Resume Production

    By GS

    from New York City

    About Me Pro Photographer

    Verified Reviewer

    Pros

    • Consistent Results
    • Excellent Teaching Tool
    • Unique Product

    Cons

    • Discontinued

    Best Uses

    • Alt Photo Techniques
    • Developing
    • In Camera Usage
    • Photography
    • Printing
    • Teaching Tool

    Comments about Ilford Harman Direct Positive Fiber Based (FB) Paper (4 x 5", Glossy , 25 Sheets):

    I was lucky and privileged being able buy the last few boxes of this product available at B&H. I understand that there have been some production issues and this product is no longer available.

    As a committed user of this product, I would like to add my voice to others, inciting Harman/Ilford to do their best to resume production and distribution of this truly valuable and unique product as soon as possible.

    In a world of digital perfection and impermanence, there are still many, like myself, able to value and make the best of this beautiful paper as an in-camera-positive. Whenever I teach alternative photography workshops, I can have my students experiment more with this paper, due to the much lower price than 4x5 sheet film. Also, students are able to follow and learn the entire loading/unloading and development procedure under safelight, which is something extremely beneficial for those who just begin to learn darkroom techniques.

    Well, I could go on and on, singing praises of Harman Direct Positive paper and the need for this product to be re-introduced on the market. But, poetry aside, merely from a business point of view, I would ask Harman Ilford not to fail analog photographers like other companies have done before.

    You are the last company we can consistently trust for the best Black and White film stocks and papers.

    As I am sure your research and development department must know, there is currently a rather big resurgence in analog (and alternative) photography techniques, worldwide and your help would be very welcome, right now.

    My humble request is not just about saving a niche (albeit unique) product, it is about asking your help in preserving a photographic practice and tradition that can only be passed on to future generations until specific tools and media remain available.

    Sincerely,

    G S

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    4.0

    Good adventure.

    By Minarik

    from Connecticut

    About Me Semi-pro Photographer

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          Comments about Ilford Harman Direct Positive Fiber Based (FB) Paper (4 x 5", Glossy , 25 Sheets):

          I was really exited about this paper. I never used before. It is the real one shot challenge. According to Ilford and other photographers the paper has high contrast. It is easy to dodge. I took the test in very cloudy weather under low contrast lights and it worked. I loaded the paper into a Kodak 1A "pocket" camera. I measured the light on mid gray @ 3ASA. I developed in Dektol 1+2 for 4 minutes. Nice results at the first time. I cannot wait to get a real 4x5 camera.

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          5.0

          Jolly Good Stuff!

          By JND Photography

          from Birmingham, AL

          About Me Semi-pro Photographer

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          Pros

          • Compact
          • Consistent Reactions
          • Easily Cleaned

          Cons

            Best Uses

            • Pinhole Photography

            Comments about Ilford Harman Direct Positive Fiber Based (FB) Paper (4 x 5", Glossy , 25 Sheets):

            I bought this to use with my recently acquired Lensless pinhole camera. I didn't want to bother with processing negatives and going through the extra steps of scanning and whatnot so this seemed to fit the bill.

            Pros:

            Very easy to work with. It can be loaded with a safelight which is a huge plus in my book. Sure you can do it in the dark, but it's always nice to know that your paper is loaded correctly before you spend hours in the field and realize you exposed the wrong side :/
            Developing is a breeze. Just develop, stop, fix, wash and dry.

            Extremely Robust. You don't have to worry about scratching this product as you would with a film negative. I routinely manhandle it with my hands, developing tongs and a hair dryer to move the drying process along. On a side note, it does tend to curl when drying but is easily remedied with a good book or two.

            THICK Blacks! I've noticed a very strong amount of contrast with this paper which may be augmented by preflashing if you don't like it. Personally, however, it's exactly the look I'm going for anyway. Most of the images I've produced are absolute black and white with 2-3 shades of gray thrown in.

            Cons:

            You really have to nail your exposures with this paper. I'd say you have about 1 stop of latitude either way.

            Slower than molasses in January. This paper is rated at ISO 3 which is fairly accurate. My shortest exposures range from 3-6 minutes depending on the subjects and prevailing lighting conditions. I recently did a 1 1/2 hour exposure in the deep shade of a forest and still underexposed by about a stop.

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            5.0

            Harman paper

            By patou

            from Quebec,Canada

            About Me Semi-pro Photographer

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            Pros

            • Beautiful
            • Consistent Reactions
            • Easy to Develop
            • Quality

            Cons

              Best Uses

              • Photography

              Comments about Ilford Harman Direct Positive Fiber Based (FB) Paper (4 x 5", Glossy , 25 Sheets):

              This paper is beautiful, the tone is perfect. I use it in my Ilford pinhole. The only problem, you have to wash it 60min and its curly when it dry. Put it under some books and all will be ok....

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              4.0

              Lovely positive print paper

              By alienmeatsack

              from Oklahoma

              About Me Photo Enthusiast

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              Pros

              • Affordable
              • Easy to Develop
              • Easy to use
              • Feels Sturdy
              • Provides Great Results

              Cons

              • Curls When Dried

              Best Uses

              • Developing
              • Easy Direct Prints
              • Photography
              • Pinhole And Other Cameras

              Comments about Ilford Harman Direct Positive Fiber Based (FB) Paper (4 x 5", Glossy , 25 Sheets):

              I've gone through a pack of this paper pretty quickly and have had excellent success with it. Since it's sized at 4x5 inches, it fits very comfortably in any 4x5 camera or film holder, as well as being right at home in the Ilford Obscura pinhole camera. It excels at giving you a quick and easy means to make positive prints right from your camera, regardless of what kind it is.

              Pre-flashing does help with the contrast, but I find that the hard contrast is actually one of it's finest qualities. Photos shot with this paper always look excellent as a result. It can be easily developed in most any paper developer, but I personally think Diafine is a perfect choice for it. You can do 1 minute each in Step A and Step B of the Diafine solution, rinse, fix and then you are good to go. I've had great success doing this and it does not require you to tray develop and check for "doneness" like other developers.

              The 4x5 sheets cut in half to fit perfectly into a Diana or Holga or most any medium format camera, with a little waste on each side of the shot but the results are worth the loss of paper. I also found that the extra on the sides helps with holding it in place in these kinds of cameras.

              It does tend to curl pretty bad when dry, so make sure to flatten it via whatever method you prefer. I stick the sheets, once they are no longer tacky, into the pages of a small notebook and strap it down. Then I flip them around and repeat so straighten the other edges.

              If you want to tone down the contrast, do a pre-flash test (instructions on Ilfords website - but it's simple enough, you pre-expose the paper to light for a brief time to start the exposure process, then shoot it normally after.)

              Well worth the time and money!

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              5.0

              good for pin hole camera

              By Bill in Nevada

              from Carson City, NV

              About Me Photo Enthusiast

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              Pros

              • Compact
              • Good contrast
              • No Negative Required
              • Standard Chemicals

              Cons

              • Not Flat
              • Slow Speed

              Best Uses

              • Photography
              • Pin Hole Camera

              Comments about Ilford Harman Direct Positive Fiber Based (FB) Paper (4 x 5", Glossy , 25 Sheets):

              This paper is being used as an experiment with a pin hole camera. This is nice because there is no negative involved, just shoot the scene and develop. One minor problem is that the paper is curved, like it came off a roll, but that is only minor. Another minor issue is that it is rated at ISO 3 and if the pin hole is small exposures can be lengthy. Good clarity and contrast and easy to use.

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              5.0

              WYSIWYG

              By trackskid

              from State College, PA

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                    Comments about Ilford Harman Direct Positive Fiber Based (FB) Paper (4 x 5", Glossy , 25 Sheets):

                    Just like everyone says- ~3iso, pre flash works to open up shadows for normal contrast situations
                    I really like the paper
                    looks great
                    slight warm nature
                    othrochromatic so bright skin tones
                    if it is still to contrasty use older developer
                    if you want to experiment then you can't go wrong with a box
                    really nice
                    worth it

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                    5.0

                    Great for use in a 4x5 camera

                    By Will

                    from Birmingham, AL

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                          Comments about Ilford Harman Direct Positive Fiber Based (FB) Paper (4 x 5", Glossy , 25 Sheets):

                          As others have said, this fits perfect in a 4x5 film holder. I'm still getting it figured out, but I think ISO ~1.6 works. Developing with Kodak Dektol and Fixer, and Ilford Ilfostop, all following standard directions.

                          I just started experimenting with preflashing, and it definitely helps. I haven't taken careful measurements, but a 1/2 sec exposure at f/5.6 with a single layer of a white cotton t-shirt over the lens, outside, light overcast, seemed to work.

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                          5.0

                          Great Fun

                          By HiMike

                          from Honolulu

                          About Me Semi-pro Photographer

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                          Pros

                          • Great in 4x5 camera

                          Cons

                          • Very High Contrast

                          Best Uses

                          • Photography

                          Comments about Ilford Harman Direct Positive Fiber Based (FB) Paper (4 x 5", Glossy , 25 Sheets):

                          It is actually cut to fit into 4x5 film holders, slips right in, so they have thought to make it the size of 4x5 sheet film. A bit tricky to get out without a decent fingernail but no real problem.

                          It is curled from side to side (short dimension) so being able to load it under dim red safelight is a plus. It is a bit tricky to get both corners started under the retainer strips. The ISO stated for it of about 3 to 6 appears to be right on.

                          Develops right up in Dektol, I used 1 part in 2 parts water. Exposure needs to be done carefully as it does not have the latitude of film. Also it is hard as nails. Grade 4 is perhaps hedging a bit. Seems more like Grade 5.

                          Pre-flash works very well and opens up the shadows a good stop without changing much else if done just right. Worth figuring out.

                          Sharpness and detail shot in camera is surprisingly good.

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                          4.0

                          great quality prints!

                          By joshua black wilkins

                          from east nashville

                          About Me Pro Photographer

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                          Pros

                          • Consistant ISO 15
                          • Consistent Reactions
                          • Great image quality

                          Cons

                          • Curled badly
                          • Slow ISO

                          Best Uses

                          • Developing
                          • In camera postive images
                          • Photography
                          • Pinhole
                          • Printing

                          Comments about Ilford Harman Direct Positive Fiber Based (FB) Paper (4 x 5", Glossy , 25 Sheets):

                          use as a 4x5 positive print, in camera. The quality, even without preflashing, is great. beautiful blacks and creamy whites. Mine was really curled in the box and dried back to a curl. this was a little disappointing as the RC direct positive that is no longer available was perfectly flat.
                          I rated this at ISO 1.5 and have had excellent results.

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                          5.0

                          Easy to use with a 4x5 film holder

                          By Franz

                          from Montreal, Canada

                          About Me Enthusiast

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                              Best Uses

                              • Black & White Photos

                              Comments about Ilford Harman Direct Positive Fiber Based (FB) Paper (4 x 5", Glossy , 25 Sheets):

                              The paper fits exactly in a 4x5 film holder, there was no need to cut anything. I rated it at 3 ISO and the exposure was correct. I developed with Ilford Multigrade, for one minute. After the stop bath and a one minute fix (Ilford Rapid Fixer), I washed it for 3 minutes in Kodak HCA and for 30 minutes in water. The paper curled a little during the drying, but it was easy to press it flat by putting some heavy books on it.
                              It's the first time I use FB paper and the first time I use direct positive paper and I really liked the experience.

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