Canon EF 400mm f/2.8 IS II USM

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Even though fast super-telephoto lenses are known to be notoriously heavy, the new Canon EF 400mm/f/2.8 IS II USM, even at 8.49 lb, is more than 28% lighter than its predecessor, making it one of the lightest in it's class.


The new Canon EF 400mm f/2.8L IS USM lens, which is expected to be available in December, 2010, for an approximate retail price of $11,000, also features an improved image-stabilization system designed to enable a 4-stop advantage over camera shake when shooting handheld or on a tripod, Fluorite lens elements (in a total of 16 elements in 12 groups), Fluorine coatings and an inner focusing system with focus-assist cams.

Other features include a 6-degree field of view, a minimum focusing distance of 8.86' (2.7m), and 52mm rear drop-in filters.

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$11,000  Are you KIDDING me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How does Canon go from $6800 to $11,000?  B&H, don't plan on selling many of these thats for sure!

Can I order one of these and apply some of that "Hope and Change" stimulus money that is floating around out there?

What makes this lens $4000 better?

www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/186152-USA/Canon_2533A002_Telephoto_EF_400mm_f_2_8L.html

For 28% lighter I didnt think they meant my bank account!

Earth to Canon, anyone home. Have you heard about the economy on this planet? What is worth another $4k?  

Must be the Obama Pelosi Mk II economic stimulator model. Wonder if the picture of the lens will fit my camera? 

This is insane.  I am sure most people will agree these are unreasonable prices although there will some rich people will get these lenses no matter what Canon asks for.

One thing for sure: These pricings will drive up the prices on the used version 1 300 and 400 IS lenses.

Well, at least it will look newer longer. Canon got smart and has changed the front end where the hood goes on. Is this some ware resistant coating? Hopefully no more marks or metal showing through. :-)

Anonymous wrote:

Well, at least it will look newer longer. Canon got smart and has changed the front end where the hood goes on. Is this some ware resistant coating? Hopefully no more marks or metal showing through. :-)

Congratulations!

When we posted this story we decided to give a free EF 400/2.8 II IS USM  to the first person who talked about anything but the price of the new lens!!!

Oh darned... you didn't leave your name... just 'anonymous'... I guess we'll have to try this free lens deal some other time.

And let this be a lesson to all you 'anonymous' posters out there!

 If you look at the MTF curves for the current 400, you will see that there is no room for getting any more resolution from this design.  

According to Canon, the lens is nearly perfect the way it stands.  So then, it takes 4 grand to improve on the near perfect?  Not in this economy.  Pro photography is on it's death bed, good luck!

Still valid? lol

After seeing it on the rumors site i love the new look. If it were an f/2.0 aperture i could see the reasoning, but damn

 $11,000???? Jaaaajaajajajajajajajaj!!! 

Give me four!!! 

I'm very happy with my Nikon 200-400 F4.0 for much less $.

 I wonder if the tripod collar rotation problems I have with my current 400 2.8 will be addressed for the extra 4 grand?

What is all the continuous talk about "this economy"?   I don't know a single person who doesn't have a job.   My commercial photography business is thriving.   My wife's company is thriving.   Every time we go out to dinner (which is often) the restaurants are full -- sometimes even with a long wait.   I think "this economy" is fine if people would just quit listening to the Democrats and liberal news media.  

I do agree though that this lens isn't likely worth $11,000.  I guess we won't know for sure until the reviews start coming out but I can't see it being worth so much more than its predecessor.     

Pro Photog wrote:

What is all the continuous talk about "this economy"?   I don't know a single person who doesn't have a job.   My commercial photography business is thriving.   My wife's company is thriving.   Every time we go out to dinner (which is often) the restaurants are full -- sometimes even with a long wait.   I think "this economy" is fine if people would just quit listening to the Democrats and liberal news media.  

I do agree though that this lens isn't likely worth $11,000.  I guess we won't know for sure until the reviews start coming out but I can't see it being worth so much more than its predecessor.     

My dear Pro Photog,

I am not sure if this is a joke or if this post is real. I don't have a job, buddy, and I don't care if you don't know me; there are millions of us, almost 15 million of us, unemployed persons, who you pass on the way to your dinner out. You may wish to rethink holding on to preconceived ideologies about WHO does and does not have money right now, and more importantly, you may really want to rethink WHY this is so.

Or-

get yourself a couple new 400 2.8's with all your disposable income, and aim it at most any street corner where someone is faking needing help, someone who is actually doing just fine in this economy but enjoys the humiliation of standing there begging for change. Make sure you are a safe 50 yards away as poverty is contageous. Focus on the eyes of just one of these women or men. A beggar. Someone who does not go out to eat at restaurants "often" like you do, someone who more likely has to find food behind the same restaurants you may frequent. Is this a person whom you may actually be scared to hand a quarter to, or to hand your leftover to. Are you scared to give? When did you forget that you and I are no different. The beauty of it is though, shooting with a nice new 400 2.8, maybe you can see the harsh reality through "a new lens".

Sending this from my Mom's basement,

m.pelletier

did someone change the date ?????  is it april 1st.????????

when any new product from canon comes out the first thing I look for is the PRICE !!!!!!!!!   I won't be looking for any new products from canon ...............

Anonymous wrote:

did someone change the date ?????  is it april 1st.????????

when any new product from canon comes out the first thing I look for is the PRICE !!!!!!!!!   I won't be looking for any new products from canon ...............

That's weird... I just checked my calendar and it says today is May 17th,,, no wait,,, now it say November 22nd... this is weird.

I would like canon make better pro cameras, then the better lenses make sense. 

i would like you to learn how to talk. thank you.

Considering how the price typically jumps from consumer grade (variable f stop) lenses to professional grade, or f2.8, lenses, I'm not all that shocked by the sticker price... Would I like it to be more affordable? Yes. But, when you look at it in the grand scope, it's not unrealistic... I will be watching to see what the street price ends up being, since I rarely pay MSRP on my equipment...

I've been looking to go another step beyond my 300mm f/2.8 lens, eyeing the 400mm and 500mm lenses... I'm going to see how this lens actually reviews/tests out and then make a decision accordingly... I'd rather get the f/2.8 lens so that I can use either my 1.4x or 2.0x extenders on it and not have my f-stop go to crap... Of course, this would also require me to get another Pelican case so that I can house both 'big-guns' in the same case... I already have another for the rest of my photo gear, when not using the Lowepro backpack (largest they make I believe, tips the scales at around 50-60 pounds when loaded up)...

I can see a real need/use for this lens when it comes to nature photography (one of the subject matter I enjoy the most) or covering races from a better (and safer) distance... If history is any gage, this lens will capture more detail than you ever thought possible in a 400mm lens... I know I've been happily impressed with my 300mm f/2.8 (money well spent)...

I'll have to check with my local camera store to see if they can get me one to rent/borrow once they hit the streets... They've offered such things to me before, since I've spent a rather healthy sum there...

Canon's pricing structure is unreasonable. But they can get whatever they want because we keep buying. Gotta go, my wallet is killing me.

Hey Canon...you listening????

Please don't improve the 500 or 600 just yet, I'm still trying to save up some extra money to buy one after the last price increase.

 I have a 300 F2.8, 400 F2.8 and the 600 F4.0. and I use and love them all.

That the new 400 mk 2 is almost 4 lbs lighter than the mk 1 makes some sort of inverse sense of the $4k premium, almost. That means you can almost forego the monopod and realize some cost offset there. $11K is some hard candy to chew on though.

I just returned a 400mm as a loan from CPS.  This was the old one.  It's 'value' was $10,000. I have a feeling the $11k is a MSRP.

Canon:

Thank you for help me make my decision: after 20 years of been your coustumer I will go back to Nikon because they are more sensitive about their prices.

Regards from Mexico

Wow nice lense!  Like what this lense can do and glad it's 28% lighter. :)

The announcement is fitting for 1st of April!

Nah, I don't think I'll sell off a car to buy a lens!

$11k is outrageous for a 400mm Lens (IT'S NOT F/1.0!!!). Canon needs to get over themselves. I've been a loyal Canon user, but I'm sick of emptying my account every time I want a decent lens. I love your lens but hate feeling like I'm getting swindled when I buy one.Tell me, what wildlife photographer can afford this? Absurd.

Looks Like a good reason to watch sony.I think Zeiss could have done it at a decent price!Yea stymulus money from the obama pelosi syndicate ,theres the ticket what constitutional right do I have to kill to get it?

Arrogantly priced supertelephoto lenses although they will probably be the best in their class.

All one can really do about it is refuse to buy and fill the need with Mk I lenses.......those are still excellent performers, from 300 f/2.8 IS to 600 f/4 IS.

These prices have convinced me to switch to Nikon as quite a few of my sport photographer friends have. It's a painful decision as I have been a longstanding Canon fan. Reality and a lack of understanding by Canon has forced my hand. Cheers Canon, but the ride is over.

Neil Lane wrote:

These prices have convinced me to switch to Nikon as quite a few of my sport photographer friends have.

The Nikon version is not much cheaper (street price $8,900) and the Canon is a far better lens. It all depends upon how serious you are about your photography. Here are just some of the differences.

The Nikon doesn't use expensive and difficult to machine titanium to lower the weight. The Nikon doesn't use two large and very expensive flourite elements to reduce the weight out at the far end of the lens and better correct for CA.The Nikon has zero flourite. The Nikon weighs a whopping  1.7lbs. more which will feel like even more since the Nikon carries the weight more towards the far end of the lens.

The Canon has a three mode IS for better handholding during action shots.

The Canon focuses closer and has higher final magnification.

The Canon will almost certainly focus faster.

The Canon will be sharper and work better with teleconverters.

That sounds like a lot for only 20% more.

But if you don't have the 20% more you will have to settle for the less advanced Nikkor.

Wow, its a beautiful lense & all...I guess this hard working artist has a better chance of winning the lottery than being able to afford my dream lense.....

I have a 300 f2.8l, a 500 f4.0l, and a 600 f4.0l.  Every year in Alaska I am asked whether it is better to spend more for a camera body or more for lenses.  I always tell people to spend money on glass since it will last forever.  Bodies change and improve every year or so; I rarely keep a body more than 3 years.  Even though my big 3 primes are "Mk1's", they still work beautifully and will last the rest of my life.  I see no need to upgrade to the new series.  It is the same here.  If you buy this piece of glass you will never need the series 3 lens when they come out.  I have no regrets saving up for these lenses.  They are awesome pieces of machinery.  Take good care of them, enjoy them, and move on.

I will purchase one of these someday.  In Alaska the early morning and late evening light lasts a long time and you need the speed.  A lot of wildlife are on the move during that time.  That one f-stop over the 500 is significant.  The newer bodies with the higher ISO's help but nothing beats a crisp, fast lens.

My $0.02.

Oh - stop whining - all of you. It's 28% lighter and you are the person who is REALLY going to have to pack this out on a trip say, across the tundra or something, than this lens is worth it's weight in gold...err platinum maybe.  

  I seriously doubt any of you would be buying it even if Canon also dropped the price by 28% - so live with the reality of this being something out of you reach (financially) and do the best you can with what you have.

  I hate Canon - I really do. I never forgave them for when they abandoned FD users in favor of EOS (which, at the time, was s joke of a system). So - I really don't care one way or another about this particular lens. I do however admire the engineering behind it. Sharp? I'd guess so. How sharp? Who cares - the best images aren't always the sharpest. The concept of sharp takes a backseat to many other criteria that I serously doubt most people here have nailed down - myself included.  

  How 'bout this? Try shooting some images instead of whining on this board like little boys that can't have their toys?

Sheesh - you're all giving photography a bad rap here. Grow up already.

Two points for Pro Photog though.Spot-on assessment;  crybabies always live in fear and get led by their noses by the liberal media. Waah waaah waaahh..... 

typo - whoops!   I meant to write you're in the second sentence.

The high price might actually be a trick to compel consumers to buy the mark I version until the mark II version starts shipping. 11K$ gives canon room for discounts once the shipments actually start and stocks of the mark I have been finished.

--T

Just last week I was pondering with fellow photographers "if money was no object, how small, light, and sharp could a super-telephoto be made?"   With the 400mm f/2.8L II, we just got our answer.   Very cool.   I'm going to buck the negative trend on this thread and support Canon on this one - this lens is an engineering marvel.  WOW.   The MTF curves for this lens with the 1.4X EF TC III and 2X EF TC III are staggering.   I'm surprised people aren't making a bigger deal out of how good these lens/TC combinations are.  The curves are up on the Canon site.  After January, why would anyone buy the 800mm f/5.6L ?   It looks like the 400mm f/2.8L II and new EF TC III's were opticaly optimised as a set.   I don't know how else the two could work so well together.  

My solution to the price is to just rent this lens when I'm going on a trip.

Hey 11K is a lot of coin, but if you want to play in the Major Leagues that is the price of admission my Friends. I hope to have the First One.

I cannot wait!!

 Let us know when you are giving away free lens again B&H for positive comments.  I would love to get a 400mm f2 as opposed to what I will be getting which is a 70-200mm and 2x converter which makes mine a 400mm f5.6!  I would much prefer the 400mm prime lens any day

These lenses look amazing. The MTF charts with the new 1.4III and 2xIII combined with significant the weight reduction will make it worth the money for those who use and rely on these lenses daily for their work. That's who they're designed for. I can't wait for the new 600 f4 myself. I hope the specifications are similar to this lens. The extra price is, in reality, a drop in the bucket if you will be earning a significant portion of your income with the lens for the next 10 years.

I'm completely impressed. After taking a look at the MTF charts, both for the lens itself and with the new extenders, it's clear that this will be a breakthrough lens. When one then factors in how much lighter the new lens is...

The old lens really needs to be stopped down a little to maximize sharpness, particularly with sensors approaching 30 Mpixels. I've sold my old one and am impatiently waiting for my lighter, sharper example of optical perfection. I don't understand how it's possible to do this in production, but bring it on!