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New Canon 600EX-RT Speedlite: A Flash Powerhouse
The 600EX-RT 
Speedlite, Canon’s newly announced successor to its cutting-edge 580EX II, enhances the best features of the 580EX II, and then throws in some fresh ingredients that sweeten your picture-taking experience.
First, in with the new: the 600EX-RT smoothly pivots into precise lighting control with a new wireless flash system using radio-wave communication that’s able to give you mastery over as many as five groups of flashes. To heat up your creative efforts, a new color filter holder is included that handles Canon as well as third-party gelatin filters—so, no more taping filters to your flash. To help you add color to juice up your next shot, a light orange and a dark orange filter are included.
Plenty of already-existing features have also been given a significant boost: the guide number jumps up to 197' at ISO 100, the zoom flash head now covers a significantly wider 20-200mm range (35mm format), and the updated AF assist beam is compatible with Canon’s new 61-point High Density Reticular AF. To make the 600EX-RT more nimble than its predecessor, a dot matrix LCD panel and backlit button deliver much better visibility for all flash controls. Redesigned hot shoe construction, increased dust and water resistance and improved body strength are built in. And the 600EX, of course, supports E-TTL II, which is highly effective, especially with high-contrast subjects. The Canon 600EX-RT gives you one less thing to worry about at your next shoot.
| Guide Number | 197' (60 m) at ISO 100 |
| Zoom Head | 20-200mm |
| Swivel | +/- 180° |
| Dimensions | 3.1 x 5.6 x 4.9" (7.87 x 14.22 x 12.44 cm) |
| Weight | 14.99 oz (425 g) |
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Well. I've been reading most of the topics here, some doubts are solved but I got a bit confused in other points.
I want to buy the cheapest solution to flash my 600ex-rt off camera, with an umbrella, etc.
I have a 5D markIII, and Im not planing right now to buy other flashes, since I am still learning.
My concern is about the future. So let's go to the topics:
1- If I buy the ST-E3 it will control my 600ex-rt only via radio. If I decide to buy another flashes later, what will I have to buy to control other flashes, like 580(those without radio), 430..600ex-rt? Are there any radio receivers to be used as slavers with any canon flashes being controlled by the ST-E3 on top of 5D3?
2- If I buy the ST-E2, its optical crolling only. It will control my 600EX-RT ? Because on this link
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/164264-REG/Canon_2478A002_ST_E2_Sp...
This Flash is not mentioned as compatible.
If answer is YES, I have the same question from 1- above. Will I be able to shoot with any other flashes from canon together, without having to buy optical receivers to each one, cuz it seems that all flashes can understand that signal from ST-E2, differently from radio ST-e3 ?
3- Is there any other brand doing the same job as ST-E2, compatible to all Canon Flashes? This Pocket wizards can be used in this case (5D3 + 600ex-rt + other canon flashes) ?
4- I read here that Only ST-E3 will work with 600ex-rt. Is it correct that there is no other brand that can be used as a radio transmiter to 600ex-rt ?
Thanks in advance!!!
1: The ST-E3-RT is a radio wireless transmitter and is only currently compatible with the Canon 600EX-RT Speedlite Flash, which is the only current Canon flash with a built in radio transceiver. It cannot control any other Canon flash, as other Canon flashes do not have built-in radio receivers/transceivers. The only radio transmitters/transceivers that will work with most all Canon flashes are the PocketWizard FlexTT5 and MiniTT1 remotes, which list on their Compatibility webpage that they would work with the Canon 220EX, 270EX, 270EX II, 320EX, 420EX, 430EX, 430EX II, 550EX, 580EX, 580EX II, and 600EX-RT Speelite Flashes. The Radio Popper PX Transmitter and PX Receiver would also be compatible. RadioPopper lists on their website the Transmitter will work with the 550EX, 580EX, 580EXII, 600EX-RT, and ST-E2. The PX receiver will work with the 420EX, 430EX, 430EXII, 550EX, 580EX, 580EXII, and 600EX-RT.
2: The ST-E2 is an optical wireless transmitter which is compatible with all Canon flashes that have built-in optical wireless receivers, which include the Canon Speedlite 320EX, 420EX, 430EX, 430EX II, 550EX, 580EX, 580EX II and 600EX-RT.
3. There are no other Optical Transmitter Only units similar to the Canon ST-E2. However, if you are looking for third-party flashes with built-in optical transmitters, then the following options would work: the Bolt VX-760C Wireless TTL Flash (B&H # BOVX760C), Metz mecablitz 58 AF-2 TTL Shoe Mount Flash (B&H # ME58AF2C), Nissin Di866 Mark II Flash (B&H # NIND866MKIIC), Nissin MG8000 Extreme Speedlight (B&H # NINDMG8000C), and the Vivitar DF-583 Power Zoom Speedlight for Canon (B&H # VIDF583C).
4: Correct. The only transmitters that are compatible with the Canon Radio system is the ST-E3-RT Radio Transmitter and/or another Canon 600EX-RT Speedlite Flash.
Is there anyway to trigger the 600ex using a sekonic 758 light meter?
I'd like to be able to measure flash output
If your Sekonic L-758DR DigitalMaster Flash Meter has the RT-32 Module or RT-32CTL Module inside the light meter, to trigger the Canon 600EX-RT Speedlite flash using the radio mode on the L-758, you would need a PocketWizard Wireless Transceiver/Receiver Remote connected to the PC terminal of the 600EX-RT Speedlite Flash (or connected to the flash's hot shoe via the PocketWizard FlexTT5 Transceiver. Sekonic radio triggering is only compatible with PocketWizard remotes.
(All remotes listed on the included link above EXCEPT for the PocketWizard FlexTT5 Transceiver Radio Slave for Nikon i-TTL Flash System, B&H# WIFTT5N, would work with your listed equipment).
I have a Canon 5D Mark II with a PW mini and one Flex TT5. I have a new 600ex-rt and an old 580ex II. Is there any way I can use the two flashes off camera?
If you already own a PocketWizard MiniTT1 and one PocketWizard FlexTT5, yet you want to use both the 600EX-RT and the 580EX II Speedlite Flashes off-camera, you would have to purchase a second PocketWizard FlexTT5, as both off-camera flashes must have a FlexTT5 transceiver connected to communicate with the MiniTT1 transmitter on your Canon EOS 5D Mark II.
Do note: While the Canon 600EX-RT does has Canon's new radio transceiver built into the flash, it is only compatible with the Canon ST-E3-RT Wireless Transmitter and/or other Canon 600EX-RT Speedlite Flashes. It is not compatible with PocketWizard remotes, just as PocketWizard remotes are not compatible with other brand's remotes.
Now I got a bit confused.
To use optical controlling on my 600ex-rt off camera, I have to buy an optical receiver as an optical transmitter?
Each flash itself (600ex and other canon models) does not get the optical sign from the transmiter, without a receiver, like it does with the flash popup from a camera?
I guess I am confunding something..sorry, just learning before buying.
Thanks
If the Canon 600EX-RT is being used off-camera optically, then you need either another 600EX-RT as an optical transmitter, an ST-E2 Wireless Transmitter on the camera, a camera with a built-in flash that can be used as a commander flash, or a third-party flash that states it can be used as an optical master commander flash. In either case, the unit on the camera or built into the camera must be listed as a master or commander flash unit for optical transmission.
Say you have 2 canon 600flashes- one on camera and one off camera... can you adjust it where only the off camera flash fires and the on camera flash does not?
As indicated in the Canon 600EX-RT Instruction Manual on both pages 55 (when using Radio Wireless Transmission) or page 79 (when using Optical Wireless Transmission), you can set whethor or not to fire the master unit that controls the slave unit. When master flash firing is set to , the master unit is fired as a slave unit of firing Group A. As indicated in the notes on the bottom of the webpage, even when master flash firing is set to OFF, the flash firing for controlling the slave unit (when using optical transmission) is performed. Therefore, depending on the Shooting conditions, the flash fired for controlling the slave unit may be captured in the picture.
Can anyone tell me how to set my zoom coverage to Auto? I've got the 600ex-rt on a 5D MKII and I'm using a standard Canon L series lens. Flash is set to ETTL and camera is on M. The instruction booklet tells me there is a manual and auto zoom coverage mode, but it doesn't tell me how to change from M to A.
Thanks!
Hello,
According to Canon, it's under C.Fn 09
C.Fn-09 – Auto zoom for sensor size
0: ON (Enabled)
1: OFF (Disabled)
When flash coverage is set to Automatic <A>, the 600EX-RT will automatically adjust its angle to coverage to match the field-of-view of your lens and image sensor. If you set this C.Fn to 1, the flash will automatically adjust its angle of coverage to match full-frame/35mm format only.
#1 I just got the 600EX-RT and found a menu custom settings glitch!!!
I talked to Canon about it to report and inquire... they confirmed it...were to look into it... and get back to me...and they never called back. Help!
I have my 580EXII's set so I can directly swing the dial to instantly adjust exposure without having to push the +/- button to activate the adjustment dial. There is also that option in the 600 custom functions to do the same. But when you set it, it doesn't work in Manual or Multi Flash modes...it only engages in the ETTL mode. You still have to push the +/- button first to active the dial in Manual & Multi flash modes. Will there be a Firmware update to fix this bug?? Canon pulled one off the shelf to test this and as I talked him through the set up for it he confirmed it was done correctly and that his unit was doing the same thing and that it was not working as intended in that setting. Will there be a firmware update to correct this? It is my most used custom function and I am devastated that it doesn't work for any of the new 600EX-RT flash units! I ready to send mine back to B&H until Canon gets their ducks in a row, because I rely on that feature heavily with my other units and need that setting consistency across the line.
#2 - I've heard rumors that when the 600EX-RT Flash was showcased & introduced at PhotoPlus Expo in NY it tanked as the radio signal was throwing cell phones and fax machines off and all was in chaos. Can anyone confirm or deny this? It makes me nervous as I live in Phx,AZ. I have one unit and had intended to eventually convert from PocketWizards with 580EXIIs to these 600EX-RTs on their own. Any info in this regard to radio signal and possible interference in a big city (or inside a corporate building) would be appreciated!
thanks! :D Shannon
Hello;
I am very sorry about this, but only Canon can say for sure if and when they release a firmware update to address the issue you described.
As for what you described taking place at PhotoPlus Expo, we did not hear anything from our representatives present at the show nor customers. Feedback concerning the wireless functionality of the 600EX-RT flash and ST-E3-RT Speedlite Transmitter have been positive. It has a 4.3 out of 5 star rating based on 21 customer reviews on our web site.
I am looking into getting a flash for some telephoto lenses. I noticed that the 600ex's range is up to 200mm, does this mean that it would cover the object covered by a 200mm lens better then the 430 and 580 flashes who's range is in the 100's? In addition, when using lenses in the 400 mm range, using something like the Better Beamer and the 600ex would provide coverage for the object? Are there any other flashes that would work with the Canon 7d and these longer lenses, that are cheaper then the 600ex?
Thanks.
With telephoto lens, flash coverage (side to side) is not the issue. The concern is the through of the light being able to reach your subject. The 600EX will have more of its light reach a distant subject than compared to the 430 and 580 flashes. A Better Beamer will add reach for subjects far away from your flash. There are less expensive flashes but none that match the output to the Canon 600EX-RT Speedlite.
Can the 600EX-RT be triggered with a pocket wizard? Or do you need the Speedlite transmitter?
Likewise, can the speedlite transmitter be used in place of a pocket wizard when using both speedlite's and strobes (Dynalite strobes that have built in pocket wizards) ?
Canon's radio system is only compatible with Canon equipment; it is not compatible with PocketWizard or any other brands' wireless radio system. To trigger the Canon 600EX-RT wirelessly using radio triggering, you must use either the Canon ST-E3-RT Wireless Transmitter or use a Canon 600EX-RT Speedlite Flash in radio mode in the hot shoe of the camera as a transmitter. No other radio transmitter will communicate with the Canon wireless radio system.
As such, the built-in radio transmitter in the Canon ST-E3-RT and the 600EX-RT will not wirelessly trigger Dynalite strobes or any other brand with built-in triggers/receivers; you must either use all Canon equipment or all PocketWizard (or other third-party) equipment together; you cannot mix and match radio transmitters/receivers from different brands.
With the 600EX-RT do you need pocket wizards as well to set off studio lights and other flashes?
For studio lights, you will need Pocketwizards, as the 600ex flash only communicates with other canon flashes via IR, or with 600ex flashes via radio - neither with studio/other brands.
I have this flash and also a 430EX11 would I be able to have both off camera and triggered by the ST E2? If the answer is yes would i be able to have Ettl with them or would they bothe need to be set to manual and used as slaves? I have trifggers (Pixl Kings) which allow me to trigger the 600 which in turn is triggering the 430EX but i'm losing the functionallity of ETTL....any advice would be good as i like using the 2 flashes when i can
Hello,
The ST-E2 will work in E-TTL (II) with both the 600EX-RT & 430EX11 Speedlites, but it will not be via radio signal. The older ST-E2 uses line of sight (much like a TV remote) meaning the transmitter and flashes must "see" eachother.
Hi! Can I use the ST3 to control both the 600 and the 430 ex II flashes? I have a t3i and the 430, and I can only control the 430 off camera as a slave with the pop-up flash up. I want to buy the 600 to use as an off-camera master and wonder if I'll be able to do it without the receiver. Thanks!
Hello,
The ST3 will not fire a 430, sorry.
Thanks! Can I control then the 430 with the 600 when both are off camera?
Hello,
In optical mode, a 600 will fire a 430, yes.
Ok I know I'm crazy. But can you use the 600 ex-rt with a Nikon d600? Thanks
The Canon EOS 600EX-RT flash does have manual operation capabilty, thats the only mode you could use it with on a Nikon or any other brand camera. It would be the same level of operation/control as using an old manual Vivitar 285HV type of flash. Apart from that the two are incompatible.
Can the 7d built-in flash transmitter trigger an off-camera 600EX-RT using the radio signal or without a line to sight?
Without the ST-E3-RT Is optical mode the only option to triger 600EX-RT from 7d?
I am trying to deciding between a used 580 EXII or a new 600EX-RT
You are correct in saying the only way to remotely trigger the 600EX-RT from the Canon 7D is either by the built in Infrared flash line-of-sight transmitter or the external radio ST-E3-RT transmitter. Since radio wireless is a much better system and is the future, and if you have no other flash units, I recommend going with the 600EX-RT.
I have a 600EXRT and I used it for the first time at a wedding on the weekend, and wow what a massive difference to the 580, Canon has nailed it with this flash. I didnt change the batterys until the reception and it never missed a beat, and also gave out really nice light. I want to get a cable to attach to my quatumn now, and never have to buy batteries again. :)
Hi,
Can 2 Canon 430EX II speedlites be used as slaves while the 600EX-RT be used on the camera. and will the Yonguo rf-602 wireless trigger/receivers work with this on a Canon 5D Mark III?
Thanks.
When used in the hot shoe of the camera and set to infrared Master mode, the Canon 600EX-RT Speedlite Flash can control two Canon 430EX II Speedlite Flashes. Unfortunately, I am not familiar with the Yonguo RF-602 units you list above, and B&H is not an Authorized Yonguo Dealer, nor do we carry any Yonguo products. I would recommend contacting the manufacturer directly for assistance with your inquiry regarding their products and any compatible features/compatibility issues with your listed equipment.
Is it true this is useless with 5D Mark II? sync at no more than 1/100th?
That is an incorrect assumption. If the Canon 600EX-RT Speedlite Flash is used on the hot shoe, on an off-shoe cable, or using infrared wireless mode on any Canon E-TTL II-compatible camera, then the flash will be able to use High-Speed Sync, and will sync up to the camera's top-listed maximum shutter sync speed. As indicated in the Canon 600EX-RT Speedlite Flash's instruction manual, the main issue with High Speed Sync concerns usage with RADIO WIRELESS transmission, or with use with Canon B-Type cameras (EOS film cameras using TTL autoflash). As indicated on page 51, RADIO WIRELESS TRANSMISSION High-Speed sync with cameras released during/before 2011 is not possible; as indicated on page 116, High Speed Sync is not compatible with EOS TTL FILM cameras. As previously stated, this does not apply to E-TTL II-compatible cameras when the flash is used on the hot shoe, on an off-shoe cable, or when using infrared wireless mode.
I wanted to follow up on the first 7D question. I am considering (like many on this forum) switching from my 580EX IIs to the 600 RTs. I do a lot of outdoor portraits, and I want the radio control without all the additional gear (currently fired by PWs.) I have a 7D and the original 5D. Syl Arena tested the 600 rt radio-transmitted high speed sync capability on the 2012 MDII and 60D and reported back that HSS does work in that set-up even if the manual says it doesn't. But can someone confirm for me whether HSS works when paired with the 7D to accomplish outdoor, radio-transmitted, high-speed sync flash? And bonus question: Any suggestions on accomplishing radio-fired HSS with the 600s on my old trusty 5D?
is compatible witn the 7d?
Yes, the Canon 600EX-RT is compatible with the Canon EOS 7D DSLR camera.
The specs says the 600's zoom head goes as wide as 20mm, but the 580 went down to 14mm with the wide angle diffuser open. So, how wide is the flash head when the 600's wide diffuser is activated? I will be using these flashes for indoor sports (ice hockey, on the sidelines) with 14mm/2.8, 16-35/2.8 and 24-70/2.8 lenses, so wide diffusers are important to me. (I got sick of everyone else shooting sport with telephoto lenses - I'm going my own way, even if long lens shooting can be done at a safer distance!!!)
As indicated in the Specifications section of the Canon 600EX-RT Speedlite Flash webpage on Canon's website under Guide Number, when the extendable wide panel is pulled out, the flash coverage is 14mm and the Guide No. is approximately 15 ft/49.2 m. Without the extendable wide panel, the zoom flash head covers a range from 20-200mm.
Hello, can you tell me is there an issue with frequency between models sold in US and Europe? I'm asking because i know for example that pocket wizards use different frequency's for different markets...
Listed in the Regions of Use and Restrictions for the 600EX-RT/ST-E3-RT guide pamphlet included with the flash, the Canon 600EX-RT Speedlite Flash has been tested and approved for usage in the following regions:
Brunei, Sri Lanka, China, Taiwan, Hong Kong, India, Japan, Macao, Philippines, Singapore, Vietnam, Canada, United States, Cayman Islands, Colombia, Costa Rica, Ecuador, El Salvador, Guatemala, Panama, Peru, Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iseland, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Russia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey.
Which is the best Quantum accesory for faster recycle time with DE 600 EX and a Canon 5D MARKII
Please i need a fast answer
TXS
Hello,
This Quantum Turbo 3 Rechargeable Battery and Cable for Canon Kit from B&H Photo brings you the ideal solution for lighting when you don't have electricity handy when and where you're shooting. The Turbo 3 Rechargeable Battery is a high voltage battery that works with most shoe- and handle-mount professional quality flash units and all Quantum Qflash, T-series and Trio/Pilot portable flashes. The included CZ2 Power Cable connects your Turbo 3 to a variety of Canon and Nissin flash units. The Turbo 3 can provide up to 1050 full-power flashes for shoe-mount and 750 flashes for handle-mount flash units.
This Quantum SD7 Power Cable cord will allow the Turbo 2x2 Power Pack or the Turbo 3 to power the Canon EOS 5D Mark II and 7D series digital cameras.
The Bolt Cyclone Power Pack for Camera Flash with Canon CZ Cable & Charger Kit from B&H Photo is an affordable, reliable power source that works with most shoe- and handle-mount professional quality flash units, such as Canon 600EX-RT, Nikon SB-910, Sony HVL-F58AM, Metz 76 series, etc. This kit includes the CZ cable, which makes it compatible with the Canon 600EX-RT, 550EX, 580EX, 580EXII, MR-14EX, and MR-24EX flashes (as well as some older legacy flashes).
You can clip the Cyclone on your belt with the included clip, or carry it using the included strap, and get enough power for up to 400 full power flashes, or thousands of flashes in TTL mode. The Cyclone has 4 colored LED indicators so you can easily monitor battery capacity. Recycling time is a lightning-fast 1 second.
Can the 600 be triggered wirelessly using the ST-E2?
Is it true that the ST-E3 doesn't have an AF assist beam?
When the Canon 600EX-RT is set to wireless infrared transmission mode and set up as an off-camera wireless slave flash, the ST-E2 would wirelessly trigger the Canon 600EX-RT flash. No, the Canon ST-E3-RT does not have an infrared Autofocus Assist beam, as it is not an infrared transmitter. It only transmits wireless radio information and is not compatible with the infrared mode on previous Canon flashes.
With the new Canon 7D firmware release, would it now be considered as a 2012 camera, thereby allowing it to achieve the additional features of this wireless flash technology (i.e. high-speed sync)?
No, it does not. The actual release date of the camera is not affected by the release date of any subsequent firmware released for the camera. The Canon EOS 7D was released in 2009, regardless of the date of the firmware updates.
Looks good and I'll be testing out a set this weekend.
By any chance does anyone know if I can use a pocket wizard to trigger one 600EX and use the flash attached to the pocket wizard to trigger the other two?
Thanks.
The above would only work if the "other two" flashes you mention have optical slaves connected to them to sync when the flash with the PocketWizard fires. Otherwise, all flashes would have to have a PocketWizard Transceiver or Receiver Remote connected to be triggered by a PocketWizard Transmitter/Transceiver Remote.
Can the ST-E3-RT control the focus zoom of each flash independently? I usually setup 3 or 4 lights and need to be able to vary not only the power output, but also the zoom of each flash to control how much rim light there is.
Canon Speedlight zoom settings are accomplished two ways: 1. The zoom lens on the camera sets the attached flash zoom. 2. The user manually sets the zoom on the flash. Currently there is no way to set the flash zoom setting remotely.
will it be compatible with canon EOS 550d? reply fast!!
Yes, the flash is compatible with the 550D and all previous Canon EOS DSLR and film SLR model cameras.
Will I be able to get a high speed sync with this flash on 550d?
Hello,
Yes, but only what your 550D is capable of.
will it be compatible with canon EOS 60D??? :/
pls reply fast!!!
Yes. Just as with my previous reponse listed below, the flash would also be compatible with the Canon EOS 60D. All standard E-TTL features would be compatible, however, as the 60D also was not a 2012 release, radio transmission wireless shooting using E-TTL autoflash is not possible. You would have to use either manual flash, stroboscopic flash, or the standard optical wireless transmission. You can view more information on pages 2 and 51 of the Canon 600EX-RT Instruction Manual.
Yes. Just as with my previous reponse listed below, the flash would also be compatible with the Canon EOS 60D. All standard E-TTL features would be compatible, however, as the 60D also was not a 2012 release, radio transmission wireless shooting using E-TTL autoflash is not possible. You would have to use either manual flash, stroboscopic flash, or the standard optical wireless transmission. You can view more information on pages 2 and 51 of the Canon 600EX-RT Instruction Manual.
Is the flash compatible with the 600D?
Yes, the flash is compatible with the Canon EOS Digital Rebel T3i (in the United States), or the Canon EOS 600D (in Europe). All standard E-TTL features would be compatible, however, as the T3i was not a 2012 release, radio transmission wireless shooting using E-TTL autoflash is not possible. You would have to use either manual flash, stroboscopic flash, or optical wireless transmission. You can view more information on pages 2 and 51 of the Canon 600EX-RT Instruction Manual.
I've just ordered 2 x 600EX-RT's and also the ST-E3 transmitter so I can have a two flash off camera setup. Does anyone know if high spead synch works on the 5D mk III whilst the flashes are off camera? Thanks for any help.
As indicated in the Canon ST-E3-RT Instruction Manual on pages 29, 49-50, and in the Specifications on page 66, the Canon ST-E3-RT can wirelessly tranfer High Speed Sync information to Canon 600EX-RT flashes using radio transfer with all cameas released in 2012, which includes the Canon EOS 5D Mark III. For use with Canon EOS cameras released prior to 2012, you would need either the Canon ST-E2 or use infrared wireless communication for wireless High Speed Sync, as radio transmission is not compatible with pre-2012 Canon EOS cameras.
What features on the 600 EX RT will NOT function with a canon 5D?
For example can I use RT and GROUPS with the 5D and use ETTL on camera and MANUAL for a seperate group.
So far I have not been able to do this with the 5D.
EXAMPLE
600 EX RT on camera ETTL
600 EX RT as GROUP B SLAVE set to MANUAL.
Can this be done?
I would recommend following the instructions listed on pages 88-89 of the Canon 600EX-RT Speedlite Flash's Instruction Manual for guidance on how to set the flash for off-camera manual usage when using the 600EX-RT as a Master flash on-camera to trigger older Canon off-camera slave flashes using infrared transmission.
For use with radio transmission, you can only use 600EX-RT flashes as both the master and as the slave flash. You would have to sync the Master and Slave flash together using the procedures listed on pages 52-54 of the Canon 600EX-RT Speedlite Flash's Instruction Manual, and read pages 64-67 concerning using off-camera manual flash with 600EX-RT flashes.
As listed on the above sections, only by using radio wireless transmission with multiple 600EX-RT flashes can you mix flash modes used on-camera and off-camera. This feature is not available with optical wireless transmission.
For further assistance, either refer to the instruction manual, visiting the pages outlined above, or contact Canon directly by either e-mailing CareCenter@cits.canon.com or by calling 1-800-652-2666.
Can somone tell me what features a 5DMKII would give up in switching to the new 600EX-RT system?
Is High Speed Sync still available?
Yes.
No features are lost or "given up" when using the Canon 600EX-RT with the Canon EOS 5D Mark II DSLR camera.
Wouldn't the feature of the Canon 600EX-RT being able to receive wireless high speed sync information from a ST-E3-RT be given up with the Canon 5D Mark II?
Hello,
It can receive whatever functionality the body being used is capable of.
Pocket wizards allow me to control studio strobes in manual while power tracking along side speedlights in ettl, if you use 100% speedlights then this is a cool setup but pointless for a multi light system. Pocketwizards arent going anywhere for the simple fact that they work on anything. Also, the higher guide number is simply due to the zoom mode, it's not really more powerful, just more focused.
Can the off-camera flashes that are triggered wirelessly work in manual or does it have to be ETTL? If so, how is the power on the off camera set? I'm just curious how easy it is. I only played with Canon's IR for a little while because changing the output for my off-camera flashes in manual mode was a pain and very confusing.
The flashes can be operated in either E-TTL II automatic mode or in Manual mode. In Manual mode, you would set the output power either on the camera body or using the Master unit for the group the off-camera flash is located.
Guys I need your advice and clearification. I got 580ii and pw setup. If I wanna get rid of pw and switched fully to canons radio system what do I need to buy? Will my 580ii work in tandem with this new 600 flash? What transmitters I gotta get? I'm kinda lost
Hello,
I am sorry, the new ST-E3 is a Radio set up for the 600-RT (and probably models going forward). Unfortunately, the 580EX II can only use the Canon ST-E2 IR system.
Does the transmitter do anything the 600ex RT doesn't do? What I am getting at is, wouldn't one be better off buying 2 speedlites as opposed to a speedlite and a transmitter? Sure, it costs more money but you would have two completely usable flagship flashes.
If you want the most functionality of of the two items you plan on purchasing, then I would recommend purchasing two or more of the Canon 600EX-RT Speedlite Flashes. The 600EX-RT does all the ST-E3-RT does, except it is in a larger package; however, the 60EX-RT does have more features than the ST-E33-RT, as it is also backwards-compatibile with transmitting optical wireless signals to older Canon E-TTL II-compatible flashes (the ST-E3-RT only transmits radio wireless signals, not optical wireless signals like its predecessor. Also, do note the 600EX-RT cannot transmit both optical and radio signals simultaneously; you must pick one or the other). The Canon ST-E3-RT is half the price of the Canon 600EX-RT, therefore, if you did not need an extra flash, if you do not use on-camera flash, or if you simply needed an economical option, then the purchase of the ST-E3-RT would be recommended. If you have need of a backup flash, do not mind using on-camera flash, or if your budget is more expansive, then you can purchase a second 600EX-RT for on-camera use to transmit the wireless signal from the on-camera flash to your off-camera flashes.
One thing to note. There is no manual in the box and no manual to download from Canon's website for this flash. I guess Canon figures we should be able to guess our way through the controls.
Correction!
There is a 372 page User Manual available on the Canon USA website. Just link onto the site; cameras; speedlights; & look for Brochures & Manuals. It's nearly 30MB in size so it should contain everything you need.
jim
your dumb..there is a giant manual in the box.
Agreed on the test flash comment. I just received 3 600's and used them over this past weekend. All of them had a very large manual. :)
Happy shooting!
I would return yours.. you might of got a test item from the store or someone opened it.
There most definitely is a manual in the boxes I bought! Michael
There was a manual in the box for the 600ex-rt and for the ST-E3-RT that I picked up yesterday. I'm looking at them right now! Not sure about the download from the Canon site but I"m sure if it's not there today, it will be soon.
think simple . if the new 600 EX work with the right way in full frame cameras ,because 580EX and 580exII in my eos1dsmarkIII and 5dII in most situations are 1stop down or 1and half . you can see the nikon's way for flash shooting . the radio slave is nice, but for every day use ,comes second to me.onlly in non full frame sensors the two 580 ex work right.sorry about my bad engish...
The good thing is canon has used an international standard meaning I can buy the transmiter and 3 light cheeper when I'm in New York in the Autumn and sill add more when back in the UK without having to worry about compatability or leagal isues. Also works out cheeper than getting the 580EX II and Pocket Wizards I was looking at.
If only the 5D Mark 3 and 1Dx have a built in RT controller, that would be the killer combo IMO!
My god i read all of this comments , about all of you purchasing a vivtar 283 and using it in manual , and if money is no option ......
Then purchase a Quantum Trio !!!! or a beautifull Lumedyne head with 400 watts power all manual with their pack that is rock solid !!!! and I guarantee that you will never have problem with this one , no book to read .
and if money is not a options enjoy the new 600 exxxxx124337 just remember that 12 years ago we where spending just on lab fee the price of 600 EX77654321 just for every wedding , men did you guys got really that spoiled.
Does anyone have an idea yet if it is possible to use the wireless transmitter to contact this flash, and then have it act as master for 580s and 430s? Because that way, I could at least sometimes use my older flashes as part of a setup, even if I have to invest in a a transmitter and flash to have wireless at last.
I'm really annoyed, though, that they build a transmitter now, but not a receiver. I'd rather invest in a couple of receivers (that understand E-TTL) for my existing flashes than having to spend all that money only to have just one flash to work with (or spend another boatload – no thanks). Not helping, Canon.
As the Canon 600EX-RT Speedlite Flash is still compatible with the optical wireless E-TTL II system, it (or the ST-E2, or the built-in master flash on compatible Canon DSLR cameras) can be used on the camera as a master transmitter to trigger off-camera 600EX-RT, 580EX/580EX II, or 430EX/430EX II flashes. However, the master transmitter has to be ON THE CAMERA; you would not be able to use the setup you describe above to have the wireless transmitter contact the 600EX-RT for it to send a signal to other off-camera flashes. The signal must come from the flash on-camera. The ST-E3-RT only transmits radio information, therefore, it will not work with the optical system used by the 580EX and 430EX flashes. You will have to still continue to use either the ST-E2, the 580EX/580EX II, the new 600EX-RT flashes, or the built-in commander mode on the Canon EOS T3i, 60D, or 7D cameras to trigger your flashes. As these items have only recently been announced by Canon, we will have to simply see if Canon announces anything in the future to assist with compatibility.
500ft max range. This is MORE THAN ENOUGH FOLKS!!!
Time to pop those pocketwizards and Radio Poppers on ebay. This is going to lighten my bag and hassle time greatly.
Who cares if its $600 flash. Your equipment is deductable anyway and only pro's would be using such tools.
I buy the 580EX and within a month or so the Canon 580EXII is released.
I finally break down and by the Canon 580 EXII and within a month the Canon 600EX-RT is released - this really sucks!
Dude you have really bad timing. I got a full two years usage out of my 580EX IIs before upgrading to this new flash system. Unfortunately I didn't read the full reviews before purchasing and so I had no idea the new ST-E3-RT didn't have optical output. That was a stupid decision made by Canon. Why on earth would they take away features? I guess Canon figues radio triggering is the only way to go looking into the future.
I hear you. But... did your 580EX stop working with the 580EXii came out? Or the 580EXii stop working when the 600EX-RT came out? They do exactly what you were willing to part with those dollars when you decided to purchase them. There will always be a 2013 model automobile right after you purchased a 2012 model. It will cost more, have more features, but that doesn't make the 2012 obsolete. Buy what you need now, don't worry about whats on the horizon because if you wait to buy the 600EX-RT, you'll still be upset when the 620EX-RT replaces it ;)
I've got 40 580EXs, and they are still pulling their weight and are workhorses. When they start to die, I'll buy whatever its replacement is and not worry about it. It will probably be a 700EX-XI that will blow the 600EX-RT 's out of the water. I can wait, I'm still making money with the 580's and they have more than paid for themselves! ;)
No it just means you didn't do your home work before making a purchase. Always study up on a major product purchase before spending the money. If you had you wouldn't have had this happen twice. Check manufactures, retail and forum sites to know whats going on.
This is a great first step. It shouldn't be long before the RT version of the 430EXII comes out. Yes, we are all going to have to unload our infrared 580's, 430's and ST-E2's and start over, but at least it's the end of getting ripped off by the Pocket Wizard folks.
"...at least it's the end of getting ripped off by pocket wizard folks."
Well, the cost of the radio transceiver is built in to the price. So rather than spending money and it going to pocket wizard more of it is going to Canon. Is that really better?
I am hoping all the Canon 580 EX and 580 EX II users put their gear up for sale so I can buy them at a discount. I have the Radio Poppers. I do not need the Canon RF flashes which work only to 100 feet. For macro FP, the infrared works fine. Nobody makes you purchase Pocket Wizards, Radio Poppers, Cactus, et al. For water drop photography I still use my Vivitar 283's of which I have five. So, for $600 plus, what are you really getting? Not much.... Al.
Like I said when the Mark ll came out , if I want a video camera I"ll buy a video camera. Where is the articulating screen? An outside mirror lock up so I don't have to go to the menu all the time. Come on Canon why don't you get serious a build a real serious still camera? Does this Mark lll hold the high lights like a Nikon ? I don't need 22 mega pixels . I have an aging 5d that I bought when it first came out several years ago and I was thinking of upgrading. But not to this .
The future of still photographer is headed towards video. Canon is on the cutting edge of the curve, they know where the industry is headed and they are keeping up with it. Pretty soon, there won't be a job for those who don't learn how to do video in addition to stills. And if you think I'm wrong, ask the people who thought digital cameras would never take over the industry let alone be able to compete with film. It's all going to be a convergance soon and Canon doesn't want to wast their money and time investing in cameras that don't keep up with the changing industry. VIDEO IS THE FUTURE!! Our youth has a shorter and shorter attention span. How can we ask them to pay attention to one still when video is constantly moving, has sound and appealing action?
What on earth are you smoking?
Nice features but costs an arm and a leg!
At close to $700.00 a flash! That's more than my 50" LED HD TV!!!
You will need 3 or more. Just sell your car & cat.
This will not be compatible with all EX flashes when you are using RT from the 600EX RT Flash. Canon knew it.
We have tested it. Canon didn't like us doing that during the show.
You will have to sell your flash(es) in Craigslist. Or just scream using wireless ETTL II (line-of-site) junk in bright outdoors.
Finally! Canon comes out with a more cabable speedlight. I have 3k invested in 3 580EXII's, radio poppers with brackets, gels and grids. Will the 600EX work with the 580's with RPs? Or even the 580's alone wirlelessly. Will they replace the ST-E2 transmitter to work with this? Glad to see a zoom feature to 200. Been waiting for that for a long time. Another disappointment in Canon wireless has been no rear curtain sync. Hopefully, Canon fixed that too with this new offering. If they did, they should mention it in the overview!
I want to know if it will trigger pocket wizzards?
Canon has not realesed any information stating their equipment to be compatible with PocketWizard Radio Remotes.
Canon has listed no information indicating the radio frequency used in the 600EX-RT or ST-E3-RT being compatible with RadioPopper equipment. The 600EX-RT will still be compatible with Canon's optical wireless E-TTL II system, so it will be copatible with your 580EX II flashes. Canon has released an ST-E3-RT Speedlite Transmitter, however, as it only transmits radio information, currently, the only speedlite flash with which it will be compatible is the Canon 600EX-RT Speedlite Flash. Multiple Canon flashes have previously incorporated 2nd curtain sync (or rear curtain sync as you call it - same thing, different terminology), including the Canon 580EX II Speedlite Flashes you own, as indicated in your 580EX II's Instruction Manual on page 26.
So, Manzell at B&H, are you saying that the 600EX-RT WILL trigger the 580EX II flashes? How about just the 580EX (no II)?
When using the optical Master mode on the Canon 600EX-RT, yes, it will trigger the 580EX, the 580EX II, the 430EX, and the 430EX II Speedlite flashes.
Not only that, If You already have a 430 ex II, 580 ex or 580 ex II and Radiopopper Px systems, You can use the 600 EX-RT in Optical master mode with the RP transmiter atached to trigger the 430/580's with RP recievers.
Is this cost effective????? Dont know that to tell You, but at least You dont have to get rid of your previous RP system yet (If You are only buying one 600ex-rt for now)
2nd curtain sync is DISABLED on the 580 EXII when used in wireless mode. Regardless of whether you set it on the flash or camera 2nd curtain sync is disabled. Only works in hotshoe or with OC cord. It would be nice to finally have 2nd curtain sync capability in WIRELESS mode.
Whadday mean no rear-curtain synch? Canon has supported it for years! Either you or I are missing somthing here! Glad to see RFI used -- although my IR ST-E2 worked fine in all my applications. Bad news for PocketWizards.
Canon Speedlite can do rear curtain sync with a single speedlite, but that feature is not available when the speedlite is in master (or slave) mode.
I have to say I am extremely happy to see them coming to market with a radio based system. But I am unbelievably unhappy to see that they've left Optical systems out of this model and the newly released transmitter. They've completely abandoned all the photogs who have committed to using their flashes. They should have incorporated Optical Transmission into the transmitter at the very least, to help out photogs who have existing multi-flash systems.
Canon lists both in the Press Release for the Canon EOS 5D Mark III / 600ST-RT / ST-E3-RT / GP-E2 / WFT-E7A and in the Features section of the 600EX-RT on Canon USA's website, the 600EX-RT remains fully compatible with Canon's legacy optical-based Wireless E-TTL technology; it has simply added radio E-TTL II Wireless transmission along with the ST-E3-RT. The ST-E3-RT is RADIO ONLY, so it will only currently work with the 600EX-RT, but the 600EX-RT works both optically and radio with wireless compatibility. The 600EX-RT can be used on camera as either a optical or radio transmitter.
Finally! Radio wave communication between camera and flashes. Infrared signals are so limited - so influenced by line of sight and bright ambient light. Come on Nikon! Time to go radio too. Til then I'll use my Radio Poppers.
Finally! Radio wave communication between camera and flashes. Infrared signals are so limited - so influenced by line of sight and bright ambient light. Come on Nikon! Time to go radio too. Til then I'll use my Radio Poppers.
I've been saying this for years ever since Pocket Wizard came out with the Plus II systems. I'm a Nikon Photographer and I'm today giving Canon kudos for making the move. I hope Nikon hears the call now and release an upgrade to the SB900 other than SB910.
Ditto.... c'mon Nikon re RT flashes...
Wow, I was saving for radio poppers and was happy to see this, but would all the flashes have to be the 600EX-RT? I am assuming that since it is radio waves, the receiving flashes would also need to be designed to receive radio waves. For someone who does not want to buy 4 new flashes in this economy, is there a way to make the new 600EX-RT work with the 580EX?
There's no reason Canon couldn't have implemented backward compatibility with earlier models. Unless it's present, and not mentioned in the specs, you'll have to buy a completely new set of flashes to take full advantage of the 600's capabilities.
Bad decision, Canon.
Unfortunately, I see no current way listed that would allow the current design of the Canon 580EX or 580EX II to communicate with the Canon 600EX-RT when using the flash in radio transmission mode. Canon USA's website indicates on the 600EX-RT's webpage under the "Features" tab that the flash has both optical wireless transmission as well as radio flash transmission, so the 600EX-RT should still be compatible with the Canon 580EX II when using the flash's optical wireless transmission mode. However, I see no current information indicating the 580EX or 580EX II can be updated to work with the 600EX-RT or the ST-E3-RT. Under the ST-E3-RT "Compatible Items" link, only the 600EX-RT is indicated as being compatible with the radio wireless mode, which further leads me to believe there is no radio compatiblity with the Canon 580EX or 580EX II flash.
Speaking with a Canon rep yesterday at the launch, they advised RT receivers will be following soon to facilitate using the 580's with the ST-E3-RT ..
Well, what I want to know is how this will work with my 580s with RadioPopers? I am glad to see Canon adding the radio transmitters built in! Wish thay had done it 3 years ago before I purchased a bunch of Radio Popers. Oh well,....
I only want to know one thing - does the high-speed-sync feature still function when using the radio transmission as opposed to line-of-site infrared?
That seems to be the only benefit of this new setup, minus the ability to control flash intensity from your camera, (which is technology already mastered by radiopoppers.)
I can't seem to find this information, no matter how intuitive my Googling gets. :-P
(Excerpt from Canon USA's website):
"For radio-based wireless E-TTL, the only cameras that allow hi-speed flash sync will be the EOS 5D Mark III and EOS-1D X (as of March, 2012). It's not possible with any other previous EOS camera bodies, when combined with the radio-based wireless flash system.
(Hi-speed sync is possible for both E-TTL and manual flash exposure if a single 600EX-RT is used on-camera with previous EOS models, as well as during optical-based wireless E-TTL.)"
While the Canon 600EX-RT and the ST-E3-RT both are able to be triggered wirelessly using radio transmission, as most manufactures do not use the same radio frequency to trigger each other (and often purposely often use different radio frequenciens to prevent interference with each other), I do not see the 580EX II flashes with RadioPoppers currently being compatible with the S-600EX-RT or ST-E3-RT's wireless radio mode. Canon does not list their equipment as being compatible with RadioPoppers' wireless radio frequency, and until there is either compatibility testing or until more informaton is released on the 600EX-RT or ST-E3-RT's radio transmission specifications, I cannot state the items will be compatible.
This seems totally not worth it, as their party radio transmitters are much better and cheaper. According to a canon tester, you can get just a transmitter, but it cost $470. This radio system can only control up to 15 flashes, and the range is limited to 99meters!