Just Out – Nikon D800 & D800E

Digital gives you the freedom to shoot more freely than you would when restricted to "three rolls of film".  At a fat $0.015 per frame off the expected life of the shutter, you can feel free to capture more images and pick and choose what to print.  (More frames = more product to sell to the couple and their family and friends.)
It's a liberating thing to not worry about the cost or number of rolls of film you have in the budget.  1000 images uses up $15.00 worth of camera if you assume you won't get the shutter redone and just scrap it when it's shutter gives up.

The other nice thing is that you simply won't have to worry about running out of battery.  I remember always carrying lots of nicad AA cells and a set alkali cells as my backup with me and still running short on occassion with a Nikon F2 and motor drive.  At a wedding and reception, it would not be unusual for me to shoot 10 - 20 36 exposure rolls of film with a  manual focus camera with flash, so with the liberation of digital output, fast AF and today's fine modern battery technology, it's not a stretch at all to think you could shoot 1000 images at a wedding.  Indeed, I would argue that you should!  That's not scattergun shooting, that's just feeling free to shoot whatever moments strike you as they do, without doing the cost calculation before pressing the shutter.  If you assume a 1 hour ceremony with a four hour reception/party afterwards, that adds up to 3.33 frames a minute; not an unlikely scenario in a room full of happy smiling people enjoying one of life's great moments.  You owe it them to capture as much of it as you can and to yourself for the retirement fund!.

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The RAW format Nikon has available for the Nikon D800 is the NEF (RAW): 12 or 14 bit, lossless compressed, compressed or uncompressed.  If you need a smaller RAW file, you would have to choose the compressed NEF file.  Fine, Normal, and Basic are selectable in JPEG mode only.

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You can use CF, or SD cards. The camera can be set to several configurations. You can use either for the primary card, and alternate for a backup. You can also set one to record RAW files, and the other JPEG. You also have the option to copy photos from one card to another within the camera. You can use your current SD cards in the camera, without a compact flash card. I would recommend using both cards. It is a very nice option to have a backup made for you before the cards are removed from the camera.

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Yes, using the DX crop mode in the Nikon D800/800E will reduce the file size, as it is using less of the sensor and only capturing 15.4 megapixels of information in DX Crop Mode.  However, although you are using a full-frame lens, as the DX Crop Mode is cropping the lens, it is also changing the angle of view of your lens, making it appear less wide than the lens' normal angle of view, so be aware of your needs and your lens' angle of view before using the DX Crop Mode.

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At this point we are working with the same information as you are on these topics. Unfortunately we have not gotten our hands on any demo models yet, and Nikon is yet to publish the instruction manuals.  Until more information is published by Nikon we have to wait and see on some of these questions.

1)QUESTION:  The D4 has the ability to uncouple exposure compensation from flash exposure compensation but the D800 does not?

    ANSWER: No information available that I could find on this.

2)QUESTION: The specs do not list that the D800 can shoot in RAW+JPEG for the same image. (D4 does). 
   ANSWER:  The D700 was able to do so and we presume this model will be able to as well. 

 3)QUESTION:  The D800 specs do not list slow rear curtain sync but the D4 does
    ANSWER: Again, the D700 had it, this should have it, too soon to tell until the instruction manual is posted.

4/5)QUESTION:  The D4 says i-TTL flash control works with the SB-600,  the D800 does not list it.The D4 does not seem to indicate that the flash ready lights with the SB-600                                       ANSWER: These are other features we are confident would work but cant confirm yet.

6)QUESTION:  And finally are you sure the D800's buttons light up in the dark?
   ANSWER:  From what I was able to find so far it does not look like the D800 has backlit buttons like the D4 does.

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Nikon USA's D800 forum has a statement by Nikon that the buttons do NOT light up.  I'm still looking for answers to the other questions

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Well...its great to read that there are still people use D200. D200 is a great camera and if you know photography skills, you can do amazing things!. I have already D800 on my hands (still have a D3s too).

I need to tell something. D200 (crop sensor) do amazing photos if you love photography. Cameras its not like TV's or game consoles. Its art. You can take advantages your skills (whatever equipment you have) and the camera makes them appear in reality.

Of course I am using standard aperture lens for evey camera I have and I am very happy that I can use old Nikon lenses whish I used with my F801 and F4.

D800 works absolutely great with 14-24mm, 24-70mm and 70-200mm(all 2.8). Dont forget to have the absolute lens for me the 35mm 1.4G which is suberb!!! (Like 50mm AF S 1.4G).These lenses are MUST for professional work. Great Low depth of field!

D800 its a new world for photography remind me my film years when I studied art in 1991. I hate to use Lightroom instead of darkroom but this is the world we are living.

This brand new camera has the abilities to be close to "analogic" quality of the film.(print of A1 and more).

Great choise!

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I would assume the rubber flap is an easily replacable part.  One solution is to drill a hole through the rubber to accommodate a plug that is always plugged in.  Better than leaving the door hanging open.

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Nikon has not yet released any copies of the D800 instruction manual online yet, as such there's certain information not yet available to us. 

A) According to the Nikon GP-1 GPS unit's specifications, when conditions are optimal the GPS is accurate within 10m/33ft from your actual location.  How the D200 or D800 may behave with any other GPS device is subject to the specifications and features of that GPS. 

B) On so many past Nikon models with the 10-pin connection, where they offered the screw-on cap, the cap was ultimately lost by so many users that Nikon opted to go with the rubber stopper type cover that yes, dangles from the side of the camera.  In general we have not heard too many complaints about the rubber cover dangling being an issue or getting caught etc.  (One could always use a small piece of gaffers tape to secure it back.)  The Rubber stopper on the 10-pin port is seperate from the rubber stopper covering the PC-syn input (only at the front of the camera - the meat in a tethered connection on the side by the strap lug).  With that said, you theoretically could remove the rubber stopper for the 10-pin - but this would be a permanent removal i.e. you cut it off.  That besides taping it back seems to be the only option I can see.

3) When using the Nikon GP-1 GPS unit, the unit syncs with the Coordinated Uinversal Time (UTC).  There is no information available at this point to confirm if it will also sync with the camera's built-in clock. My hunch is that it should. With other GPS devices it again would be subject to the features and specifications of that device.

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Oops ...for b)  I meant "... in and out of my camera bag" (not "body").

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I agree with you, at a glance its hard to see any significant differences in the two models, and for the price difference its hard to justify the D3x

When you look at the two models side by side the D800/e for most shooters is the obvious better choice, and in many categories it exceeds the D3x.

The durablity factor is the main difference between the two.  A combat cameraman would likely not consider the D800e due to the fact its not designed like the D3x is - to withstand the harsh elements one may be stationed in to photograph.

You may very well be a candidate for the D800e model, given that Nikon is marketing that model towards landscape and studio photographers who are looking for the greatest sharpness/fidelity from their lenses - the lack of the anti-aliasing filter lends to that. 

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Hello,

According to Nikon:

Compatible Lenses

AF NIKKOR other than type G or D*2: All functions supported except 3D Color Matrix Metering III
AI-P NIKKOR: All functions supported except autofocus and 3D Color Matrix Metering III
DX AF NIKKOR: All Functions Supported Except FX-format (36x24)/5:4 (30x24) Image Size
Non-CPU: Usable in [A] or [M] mode Center-Weighted or Spot Metering; Electronic Rangefinder can be used if Maximum Aperture is f/5.6 or Faster
Type G or D AF NIKKOR: All Functions Supported

I do not believe non AI lenses can be mounted onto the F3, D800 & D800E bodies. So your lenes should work per the restrictions listed above.

What is the difference between an AI lens, an AI-S lens, and Non-AI lens?

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Almost all higher-level cameras are made with a magnesium body.  In the Nikon line, the D7000 and up all have magnesium in them.

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The D800 does have intervalometer built in. You even have the option to take all the images and create a time lapse movie file in the camera. The downside to having the camera do this for you is that it will not keep the original pictures for you. You still have the option, with all the intervalometer features, to set the interval between exposures, and duration of recording.

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If you are trying to get a quote for your used equipment, you can do this by calling our used department at (800) 606-6969 option number 2. They will be able to give you a quote over the phone.

You can also get a quote on our website by filling out, and submitting this form. 

If this is not what you are referring to, please clarify the question.

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1,2)  The D800 can be wirelessly triggered by the ML3 remote control, or you can also use the 10-pin MC-30 wired remote as well.

3) Yes, the camera offers auto bracketing (2 to 9 frames in steps of 1/3, 1/2, 2/3 or 1 EV) and also has a built-in time lapse mode.

4) As the Nikon D800 will use the standard Nikon F-mount, and it can accept both FX and DX lenses, all current Nikon lenses listed in our inventory will be compatible with the D800.  When using full-frame FX lenses, you receive the full 36.3 megapixels for your image; when using DX lenses designed for the APS-C sensor cameras, you will receive 15.4 megapixels for your image

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Hello,

Generally speaking no it will not. UW housings are custom made to the body they support. There are instances where one body did work in another housings and while rare, we cannot be sure until the D800 is available.

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Hello,

None at this time.

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Addemum. Of course the optiical viewfinder is blanked out during video shooting. So yes, the signal everywhere can be as clean as you want.

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The LCD Live View and the external display can be made free of all overlays. However, since this camera is so new, we also are waiting to see precisely what is in the optical viewfinder during movie recording. We will assume at this time like other Nikon DSLR's you will not be able to turn off all optical viewfinder overlays. 

The D800 supports the simultaneous Live View on camera display and an external monitor of the movie during recording. This has not been possible before.  Also new you can record uncompressed movie files to external recorders such as the Atomos Ninja. Previously you could only record full movie files to the internal cards. (Note if you wish to record to the internal cards, the external HDMI signal will go down to less than 1280 x 720.)

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Not true D7000 has auto focus during video

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If they're not, then none will be, because Nikon makes the best glass out there, and besides the AF lenses, and those more complex with advanced design (nano-crystal, ED, CRC, and asphericals),  I'll bet even the great legacy AI/AIS lenses will do just fine as they have on the D700/300/200 and many other DSLR bodies.

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15.3MP

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When using full-frame FX lenses, you receive the full 36.3 megapixels for your image; when using DX lenses designed for the APS-C sensor cameras, you will receive 15.4 megapixels for your image.

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This camera looks fantastic but my only question is about video.  Has Nikon finally given videographers full control over exposure?  I own the D300s and it's a pain in the butt setting exposure because it autoexposes for the scene and the only way to adjust is using exposure compensation and then setting an auto exposure lock.  Canon's video systems, on the other hand, lets you change aperture and shutter speed and view the changes in real time, giving you control over shutter angle.  This is a huge issue for continuity and control, and the main reason I'm considering switching over to Canon.   

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Manowits wants to sell his D-700 to get the D-800!

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Manowitz said it. I'm a pro photographer and videographer. The ability to capture to large fine art sized stills (many clients DEMAND large prints) and high quality video with good audio, and not alway have to carry TWO camera systems (which I own) at all times is invaluable to me. People are voting with their wallets. The D800 is sold out for months. I am heavily invested in Nikon glass, and I love seeing Canon in the catch up position.

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Well said. Reading these posts has made me realize just how picky and arrogant photographers are. Gag!  I have been with Nikon for years. I currently shoot with a D700 as my main camera. While this is an amazing camera, and relevant in todays market, upgrading to a D800 is still a choice. As with anything, there are pros and cons. To nitpick about a camera giving you an HD video option instead of being cheaper without, or using only CF or SD cards is irrelevant. It is what Nikon has chosen to do. Like Manowits said, they will sell these like hotcakes. Hell they may even convert some of the Canon boys and girls. To be quite honest, I would be surprised if this camera didn't do just that. I will be buying one of these and when I print my first large print, I am sure my jaw will hit the ground. Here's to hoping they stun us all with low light capability and that my D700 can be an insanely awesome backup.

 On a side note. Having the option to use both FX and DX on the same body? Thank you Nikon!

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Well put, I'm also planning to upgrade, just it being a tad lighter will be nice.  Also cool it'll take the new D4 battery with the grip option, better for all day wedding shoots.

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I regularly print 20x24 with my 10mp D-200 and get very sharp enlargements. The 36 mp sounds great but might be overkill, unless you go really really large. Saying you need 36mp to print larger than 4x6 is a curious statement.

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In the D800 Specifications on Nikon's website, it lists the D800 as having a maximum movie reording time of 20 minutes at the highest quality (HD), and 29 minutes 59 seconds at normal quality.  It does not state how long you will have to wait before you can continue filming, although I suspect this will also have some partial effect depending on the speed of the storage device you are using to write the information from the buffer to the storage device.

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Under Technical Specifications, Nikon lists at highest image quailty (HD), the D800 has a maximum movie recording time limit of 20 minutes: at normal quality, the D800 has a maximum movie recording time limit of 29 minutes, 59 seconds.

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I, too, am curious about the Nikon 800's limits for video clip/shot length.  All Canon models may not be the same.  My T3i has a maximum shot length of 29 minutes 59 seconds (apparently to get around European tax laws, even though this is a USA-model), even if I am recording to an external hard drive or streaming the video, and not recording it at all.    In addition (or rather, 'subtraction') p. 151 of my manual says that "Due to limitations of the file system," recording will automatically stop when the file size reaches 4 GB, which a chart on the same page says will take 11 minutes for 1080 and 720, and 46 minutes for 480 video.  P. 163 indicates that the camera may also quit recording video or stills if the internal camera temperature gets too high.  

These time limits are a major impediment if one is shooting concerts or anything of a documentary nature. If the Nikon 800 exceeds any or all of these limits, it would be a major plus for many videographers, and a competitive advantage over current Canon models.  

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A used D3s might be the answer to your prayers!

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it will go up to 6 FPS with the grip

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Unfortunately, this question is not answered in the press release from Nikon, nor in the previews I have seen on the camera.  We will update our findings once we receive clarification.

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My experiences with Nikon serivice has been satisfactory, but I may be an exception.

Nikon customer  te;ephone customer  service, now in the Dominican Republic,  is awful:  the telephone reps are not  very familiar with the DSLR cameras, and can only answer very basic questions such as how to turn the camera on, or the difference between basic settings. When I call them with  camera manual in hand with camera placed in front of me on my desk, and ask for help with interpreting information in the poorly written manual,the reps have generally not  been able to help, refuse to pass the call to a more knowledgable  person, and sometimes hang up rather than try to get an answer

. I also have some Canon equipment,  and calls to  Canon customer srvice are answered promptly, and if the rep does not have the answer, are immediately tranferred to "level 2" for an answer. One question I asked Canon  last year raised questions about a camera internal problem, resulting in Canon's request to send the camera to them  for evaluation at no charge, and they adjusted some firmware at no charge to me at all.  Other large organizations correct problems when top management learns about it ( Canon many years ago, some large computer companies, etc), but Nikon does not, perhaps because top management is in Japan and the US officials do not inform them.

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You're absolutely correct.  More  pixels and bigger sensors does not mean better quality.

The smaller the pixels, the less light and color saturation.  And more noise.

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If this camera is consistent with my Nikon 300, then I love having the two card slots.  I have the option to have one card, back up the other card as overflow.  I have the option to write to both cards at the same time, so that I can take out the SD card, plug it into my IPAD2 with adapter and display shots in real time to clients while still having a card to take an additional image on the fly if I need to.  I can also choose to save for instance my RAW files to the CF and the jpeg to the SD when I am shooting RAW + JPEG.  Hope this helps.

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I am very excited by the 36 mp. This will allow huge abilities in croping.. and printing of large photos, posters.. yes, I can see that I will love this.

I have mixed feelings about joining video with still camara features..

Really, if you are going to shoot pro video, you need many things.. good off camera mic, volume controls... 

I am thinking much better is to leave still cameras being just still cameras.. and video cameras stay video cameras...

Or, atleast offer all these new features without all the video?

Not saying many people will love the aspect of being able to shoot both.. but many people simply do not want to shoot video with their still camara.

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I suspect the 4fps is without the battery grip; similar to the D700, with the vertical grip, you get up to 7fps vs without at 3 or 4fps (I forget which).

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if its as good as stated, it will be like a medium format camera quality image. Bigger image means more storage, but its all relative. My images require high amounts of detail is this will fit just perfect.  I have more request for video and this is just awesome. 

Most people dont need this type of image size because all they print are 4x6- but my images are 24x36 minimum. I cant wait to see the images.

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You make some good points. 36 mp is more than most photographers will need. (We can crop better, but why not compose right the first time)? The image file size will be huge. Good excuse for a new Macbook Pro!

Two different card types? I agree. Why?

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Nikon lists the D800 has the ability to create lossless compressed 12 or 14 bit, lossless compressed, compressed and uncompressed .NEF RAW files.  While the approximate file sizes for all sizes are not listed, the full 36.3MP .NEF is listed to take up approximately 76.5MB.  However, I do not currently know how much the file size is reduced using the compressed NEF files.

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Anybody?  I have the same question...

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i will waste my money on this.

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I will not but any Nikon product until they fix their absolutely "crappy" service department.  And I mean absolutely "CRAPPY."  I've been a full time professional for nearly 40 years and I used to use Nikon 35 mm cameras exclusively, but the last several years Nikon Service is just about non-existant.  Meanwhile Canon Service is extremely "snappy."   Do you hear us Nikon?  Fix your service.  I want a real human to answer your telephone in the service department.

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Simples.... the 16mp allows for far higher ISO , & fps, I do wish people would read about the things they then post about, it would stop them looking stupid!

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The D800 is full-frame viewfinder, and $100 for a camera of this build is ridiculous.

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If I described a car that had 500 horsepower, could go 0-60 in 4 seconds, had a top speed of 190 mph, and had an amazing design, what would you expect to pay???  Don't expect a Porsche for the price of a Hyyndai.  It costs s ton of money for research an development, manufacturing (especially after the devestating earthquake and tsunami), marketing, etc... Heaven forbid they actually make a profit on this technical marvel.

As for having all Canon equipment, how good is your equipment and how much equipment do you actually have?  If you are talking about a kit lens you got with one of the older Rebels, then your equipment has little value.  If you have made a big investment in expensive lenses, then it makes sense to stick with Canon and move up to their higher end cameras (which are VERY competitve with Nikons).  Based on your post, I doubt you have made any serious investment.  Putting crappy glass on great camera is like putting crappy tires on a performance sports car.  It will still work, but it certainly won't live up to its potential

As for $100 price range, go buy yourself a nice little point and shoot and stop dreaming.  The crop factor is a non issue for most people since the lenses for the APS sized sensor are typically wider than full frame lenses.  Unless you truely shoot a lot of WIDE angle shots, it is irrelavent.  I actually prefer a multiplier since it like shooting with a longer telephoto lens.  My 80 - 400 became a 120 - 600 on my D200.  I actually used this lens a lot for shooting wildlife from a distance.

As for price... The old saying goes "If you have to ask, you probably can't afford it"

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Yes. Making cameras like this cheap is the answer!! Or not...

If everyone could afford equipment for this, "Everyone would be a photographer..."

and being a professional photographer would be nearly impossible. How about

people save their money, if they're serious about owning a piece of professional

equipment like this...

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The D800 also uses the very fine legacy AI and AIS (non-CPU lenses), with A, M, and Matrix metering with menu enter, and rangefinder at f5.6 and faster.

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As the Nikon D800 will use the standard Nikon F-mount, and it can accept both FX and DX lenses, all current Nikon lenses listed in our inventory will be compatible with the D800.  When using full-frame FX lenses, you receive the full 36.3 megapixels for your image; when using DX lenses designed for the APS-C sensor cameras, you will receive 15.4 megapixels for your image.  The camera is made from magnesium-alloy metal.

As currently listed on our website, the D800 SLR Digital Camera is currently $2,999.95; the D800E SLR Digital Camera is currently $3,299.95.

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The pricing for both cameras are listed on our website.  The Nikon D800 Digital SLR Camera is currently $2,999.95; the Nikon D800E Digital SLR Camera is currently $3299.95.  Listed above under Frame Coverage and listed under Specifrications on our website and Nikon's website, the D800's optical viewfinder at FX has approximately 100% coverage horizontally, approximately 100% coverage vertically.  As it corresponds to the aspect ratio you are using, Nikon lists the following on their site:

 Viewfinder Frame CoverageFX (36x24): 100% Horizontal and 100% Vertical Approx.
1.2x (30x20): 97% Horizontal and 97% Vertical Approx.
DX (24x16): 97% Horizontal and 97% Vertical Approx.
5:4 (30x24): 97% Horizontal and 97% Vertical Approx.

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5D Mk II is full frame, and the Mk III will be also. The Mk III will be the same price right around $3000.

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Canon 5D mark II is a full frame carema that is cheaper than Nikon D800.  The 5D Mark III is also likely to be cheaper by 300 dollars than D800.

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32 to 104°F is the common operating temperature of just about every DSLR currently on the market.  The Canon 1Dx and Nikon D4 (both top tier flagship cameras) have that same operating temperature as well.

 These cameras are clearly used in conditions and temperatures that exceed this range, however in many instances the photographers using them likely are less concerned with voiding a warranty for using it outside the specified parameters as they are in getting the shot in extreme conditions.  Sponsored photographers such as those in the military or National Geographic for instance often enjoy the fact that these organizations have the ability to modify the cameras to perform better in these conditions. 

 Any of these camera used in the examples you provided for a brief period would be fine, prolonged exposure to those conditions would likely take their toll on the cameras.  Just take extra measures to keep the cameras clean, dry, dust free after each shoot and you should be fine. 

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Apparently I wasn't sufficiently clear in my previous question on temperature.  I offered the high and low temperature shooting examples to show that the stated values are likely to be wrong, or else this camera would not be useful to most photographers.  I want to know the real operating temperature range, because I will be shooting outside the stated range frequently.  What negative effects can I expect, when I work outside the manufacturer's stated temperature values?  A posting above suggests that I should assume that Nikon is lying about their temperature figures [but assume they are telling the truth about others?], and replace Nikon's stated temperature limits with, apparently, blind faith or baseless assumptions.  I would rather have some actual data, even if it is anecdotal.  What operating temperature limits have D700 owners found?  

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What a pointless post, do you honestly expect any company not to error on the side of caution about such things as operating temps?

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Who gives a damn about temperature range, especially when cameras operate outside of it frequently. The figures are probably an estimation established years ago and applied to all electronics, and probably without any testing.

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Read between the lines. It's all about motion in the future.,D-800 is aimed at film makers with Nikon lenses..,rather then the still world.

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The 'video stuff' is mostly software. 90% of the hardware needs to be there for still photography as well. But I would guess there isn't a price premium of even 10% because having a single device with wider appeal means higher volume which means overall lower per-unit production costs. The more general purpose a device is the better for cost, so you can have this camera that includes the video stuff or have the same camera minus those features for a price premium. I know which I want.

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Sadly the photo industry is moving towards multimedia, and away from printable stills. I do however agree with you that there should be a still version available. It may have been a good idea for Nikon to release two versions of this camera, one geared for still at a lower price sold as D800 and D800E and the other  towards video sold as D810 and D810E.

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Great observation, i do not want to pay for video on a still camera, do you suppose you can offer this camera without the video?...and at what price?....how close does the d700 come to what i am looking for in the d800 less the video?....please compare the difference  for me...thnaks

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Easy: Video equipped DSLRs sell like hotcakes. There's a sizable market. Canon's been selling thousands of T2i's and T3i's to video enthusiasts. Where I work, in our communications and media department, we use a t3i for all of our still print work, and then use the same T3i for all of our video work. An $800 t3i runs circles around our $5000 Sony HD video camera. Because we were so pleased with the results we were getting, 7 of our staff have bought T2i's or T3i's in the past 2 years. When I needed to do a 6 camera DSLR shoot for a live event I was filming, I had no trouble finding extra cameras for all the coverage. A far as your thought that you're paying for lots of video stuff when all you need is the still stuff, my guess is, adding video isn't adding much to your cost. When the T2i first had video on it, it was almost an after thought. Clearly the camera was designed as a still camera that happens to shoot video. That's still the case with Canon DSLRs, and with Nikon's, too. They're designed as still cameras that happen to shoot video really, really well. DSLRs are adding features that make it easier to use for video, but your statement that they're much more about video than anything else is disproven by the camera designs. I've used pro video gear. And I've used DSLRs for video. The video image you can get with a DSLR is remarkable, thanks to the great sensors and the interchangeable lenses. But trust me, they're a pain to work with. They're made for stills, first and foremost. All those extra megapixels, for instance, do almost nothing to help with video. But Nikon knows that if they can make a better DSLR for filmmakers, especially with regards to mic inputs and audio monitoring, then they'll steal some of Canon's market share. And trust me, Canon is eating Nikon's lunch in this area. 

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I couldn't agree more.  I'm a 'still' photographer.  And that's all I want to be.  Why are they putting so much into video in everything.  My guess is... so that they can charge more money for stuff that us 'still' photographers will never use.  Why can't they simply come out with a 'non-video' version.  It seems they really care more about marketing all the razzmatazz than simply providing top-notch equipment to their life-long bread and butter customers... the still photographers.  My D700's (I have two) are still the perfect camera for me.

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