Canon 5Ds & 5Ds R Webcast: Live from B&H

Moderated by Larry Becker, photographer Gregory Heisler and Canon Technical Advisor Rudy Winston have a live discussion about the new Canon 5DS and 5DS R digital cameras. These cameras have already created a year’s worth of buzz with their 50.6MP sensor, as well as anti-vibration and shutter design improvements. The 5DS R distinguishes itself from the 5D S with a filter design that cancels the optical low pass filter effect for even finer details. Heisler speaks of his time using the cameras and compares them to the 5D Mark III in terms of handling, shooting, and resolution. Rudy Winston, the “Yoda of Canon,” talks about the demand for higher-resolution cameras, of Canon’s in-house sensor manufacturing and of where these new cameras stand in the lineup of Canon’s professional DSLRs. He also details the technical aspects that differentiate the two cameras and Heisler shows the sample images he shot with them, and speaks on the importance of eyelashes and nostril silia.

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Very good video chat with two experts in the field of photography. It was not only a good overview of the two new models of 5DS and 5DS R, but the conversation really got into digital camera technical information that was well presented by both guests. I learned a lot more than just the technical differences are between the Canon camera models. I consider Rudy to be a great technical expert on Canon products, but this video really proofed it to me.

Hi, I am a real estate photographer and I am curious about the low light preformance of the 5DS and 5DS R. I use a 70D as my every day camera but I had the opportunity to try a 5D Mark III and was really impressed at how it handled low light when shooting brackets for exposure fusion. Does having a larger sensor detract from low light preformance you get with the 5D Mark III? I am ready to upgrade from the crop sensor to the full frame and wondering if I would be better served by a 5D Mark III or a 5DS or 5DS R for standard interior real estate shooting.

Harish D. Mumbai

I m having canon 5D mark III and about 8 canon premium lenses. I am into event photography and I enjoy doing portrait photography .         I want to know what will be advantage to me if I buy canon 5Ds R.

Sensor size isn't the determining criterion.  Pixel density is.  The more pixels you squeeze onto any sensor of a given size, the smaller each pixel (photosite, actually) will be.  The smaller photosites don't collect light as efficiently as larger photosites.  The push for higher ISO is what prompted Canon, a few years ago, to upgrade some models with FEWER mega-pixels than the previous model, so as to improve low-light performance.  In general, you will get better high-ISO performance with larger photosites, which means FEWER MPixels.  The new 5DS and S-R, as I understand it, are geared toward detail and large enlargements, not high-ISO performance.  If this isn't your thing, then you are barking up the wrong tree with these cameras.

I shoot real-estate interiors, too.  I use old Canon 40-D bodies.  Seeing as I very often use HDR via Canon DPP and am tripod-mounted pretty much all the time, high-ISO isn't that important to me.  I can shoot at 1/4 sec or whatever, no problem.  Also, seeing as most of my work goes onto the web, 10 MegaPixels is much more than enough for my clients.  With 50 MPixels, you're going to increase your disk storage requirements, download time, backup-time, etc, too.  If you really want to upgrade from a 70-D to a full-frame, look into the 6-D (which may become a 6-D Mk II at some stage) or a 5-D Mk III (Mk IV someday, too).  The 5-D S models don't sound right to me for your use, unless you want some very detailed enlargements blown up to the size of a  house.  Oh, the 6-D also has built-in Wi-Fi, which could be very useful for a variety of tripod-mounted architectural techniques.

Jake

Harish, for events, the 5D III is likely the better camera.  It’s faster, and the file sizes are more manageable than the massive files you get from the 5DS R.  The 5DS R is a better option for landscapes, studio work, and fine art. 

Clayton, while I haven’t seen any in depth tests or comparisons yet for the 5DS cameras vs the 5D III, a friend and colleague had the chance to play with the 5DS for a bit last week.  She found that the images were definitely useable up to ISO 3200.  At ISO 6400 there was noise, though there wasn’t as much color distortion in the noise as she experiences from her 5D II.  The 5D III  should be a bit better in low light,  though, both cameras will outperform the 70D in low light.  That being said, using the 5DS on a tripod when shooting interiors, the low light performance will be more than adequate, and should offer wonderful fine detail.

This was a very helpful video in explaining the technical changes and differences in these new 5D cameras. I think I know which one I will buy. 

What I like most about this video is that, unlike the largest known tech company on the planet, Canon don't ram the product down your throat; in fact they encourage you to consider your options before purchasing the newer camera.

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