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items - Canon EOS-1D X: New Top-Gun HDSLR
After months of speculation and an untold number of rumors, Canon has unveiled its new flagship camera—the Canon EOS-1D X. Most impressively, the new camera, which replaces both the EOS-1Ds Mk III and EOS-1D Mk IV, improves upon previous Canon EOS 1D-series HDSLRs in every which way.
Starting with the camera’s imaging sensor, the EOS
-1D X contains a full-frame, 18.1MP CMOS sensor that features pixels that are 1.25 microns larger than the pixels found in Canon’s EOS-1D Mark IV, and 0.55 microns larger than the pixels found in Canon’s EOS-5D Mk II, which combined with gapless micro lenses, should translate into greater dynamic range, less noise and smoother shadow-to-highlight transitions than both of the aforementioned cameras. As with all EOS 1D-series cameras, the 1D X features 14-bit A/D conversion for optimal color and tonal range.
In the performance department, the new camera boasts a total of three image processors including a pair of Canon’s latest DIGIC 5+ image processors and a DIGIC 4 image processor, which has the sole duty of operating the EOS-1D X’s 100,000-pixel RGB Metering System and new EOS iTR (Intelligent Tracking & Recognition) and 61-Point High Density Reticular AF system.
In addition to 12 frame-per-second continuous shooting speeds (or up to 14 fps in Super High Speed Mode), the new DIGIC 5+ imaging processors allow for lower noise levels, chromatic aberration correction for Canon EF optics (formerly a post-production chore), and a standard ISO range of 100 to 51,200, which is expandable to a lower ISO 50 and an expanded range of up to 102,400 (H1) and ISO 204,800 (H2).
Along with impressive still performance (JPEG/RAW/JPEG+RAW), Canon’s EOS-1D X offers HD video with full exposure control and a wide choice of frame rates, including 1080/30p (29.97), 24p (23.976), 25p, 720/60p (59.94), 50p, 480/60p (59.94), and all with 4GB of automatic file partitioning for continuous recording times of 29 minutes and 59 seconds.
Other features found on Canon’s new flagship camera include fully weatherproof magnesium-alloy construction, an intelligent viewfinder that features a superimposed LCD, a 3.2", 1,040,000-dot Clear View II LCD, a selection of customizable menu controls, dual CompactFlash (CF Type I & II) memory card slots, 36 ms shutter-lag times, in-camera RAW processing, a Gigabyte-Ethernet terminal and compatibility with Canon’s wireless transmitter and GPS receiver systems.
Canon’s EOS-1D X is expected to arrive on our shelves sometime around March, 2012.
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I am very impressed that Canon which already had a slight advantage seems to be listening. The C300 is amazing for video (if you can't afford it then RENT it for your projects). The X look amazing. Unfortunatly to own would cost a lot. I just ordered the canon g1x stealthy 799$ digic 5 point and shoot with 1080hd 24p (which i can use for youtube videos, stealth shots-docu-commercial inserts). Now i need to decide if the 5DM3 is worth the $ over the 5DM2? But agree there is no need to complain. If you can't afford, then rent and charge the rental off to your projects. If you have no projects (gigs) then why on earth would you want a 6500$ cam with another 7000$ in accessories and lenses? These new cameras are amazing. I went to the Canon private show at Paramount a few months ago. Even the 3000$ canon xf100 video camera was impressive. (looked like an episode of FRIENDS) lol. and the C300 was superb. Saw the 1dX but wasnt avail to play with. Congrats Canon for continuing to push the envelope and make such amazing SLR's with insane low light video.
I have used Canon Cameras for years, but after the fiasco of my 7D, and never being resolved my canon after 5 trips to them in 7 months, i will never trust a canon digital camera or trust their warranty again, going Sony, my son has never had a problem, my images always looked fuzzy focused, my son called my L series lenses White elephants, but i am very dissapointed with the warranty and service. Lost me forever
Check out this marketing link. http://youtu.be/x79rQmdYhEA
The X specs look impressive.
The comments are entertaining and informative.
When I look at my Canon F1, I really appreciate what Canon is offering in the X. My MkII n and MkIII are exceptional performers, but the features of the X look very nice. I really hope the manufacturing and design hit a home run.
Looking forward for the early reviews and tests from owners. Please keep us posted.
Everywhere I've looked, it says just as above "1/8000 - 30 seconds," NOT "1/8000 - 1/30 second." How can any of you POSSIBLY be misunderstanding this to mean it only goes down to 1/30th of a second? It quite clearly says 30 seconds. Which, by the way, is the standard range for most (or all) DSLR's.
Holy Crap at some of these questions and remarks. Excuse me while I rant. If you know this little about photography and digital sensors in general then you need to be looking at not only cheaper cameras but ones with no manual settings. And some of guys call yourselves "professional", you guys are the ones ruining the industry & driving prices in the ground with your uneducated "soccer moms with camera" studios. You keep saying it needs more mega pixels, really? If you do not understand or too lazy to educate yourself on digital sensors then keep your stupid comments to yourself. Our studio does video productions and photography, and yes, we use HDSLRs in some productions. But putting ND filters, XLR inputs, etc... in a HDSLR? where are you going to put all that stuff? This camera is a still camera that happens to do some great video, not a video only camera. If you want all that then go buy a proper video camera, FS-100, F-3, C300. The internet is full of information on how cameras work, go learn some stuff before you charge people money for your services!
I agree, all this whining.
I want a couple more megapixels on my iphone not my new 1dsx, I shoot 2-3 editorial jobs a week, occasional catalogs, commercial and corporate shoots, larger fine art prints..
I like it. Canon is NOT following the race by simply making it bigger, but better.
you want bigger? I have 20TB's of hardrives, its ridiculous..
if you think you need more pixels for bigger prints(?) your printer should be interpolating your file with a properly prepared file, it should look amazing. I have made large to monster prints, both C-prints and digital, from 5D, 5D2,1DS, M4, with great results.
oh yeah, its 30s, not 1/30th obviously..
if you can't afford it, don't buy it, if you don't like it, don't buy it... Relax
Does anyone know if Canon has included a proper video autofocus system in this camera? Or have they left it handicapped as in the Mark IV?
The lack of autofocus is simply a wise decision. If you have a camera with the capability of such a shallow depth of field, you really don't want the camera making the focus decision. Just learn to pull focus. The only thing I'd suggest to make focusing easier on the small screen is a peaking function like the C300.
Like the other Canon DSLR cameras there is no video autofocus unfortunately.
I never use autofocus with video. Autofocus tends to refocus in the middle of a shot. The results look terrible. I don't think the feature is missed amongst video people personally. If you are looking to have a moving shot or a rack focus wrap some tape around the lens and mark the positions for the focus the results will be smoother and also timed to the shot you are taking.
From a photography standpoint I also have mixed feelings about autofocus. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't...
Hi to everyone, I think someone made a mistake, in the UK page of Canon, and several other languages, it say that the camera shutter speed is 30-1/8000 and bulb. I think that the 1/30 is mearly a type mistake. It is impossible to have a pro camera with 1/30 sec as the limit shooting speed.
*waits impatiently for 5dm3*
i shot lots of photos of paint drying....will this suffice?
I was hoping for a 24M pix camera. The max shutter 1/30s must be a typo. I'd love to see the noise levels though.
Then get a Nikon D3x or a Sony A900.
Does this camera have the capacity to set multiple bracketing options (more than three) per shot? Mentioned to Canon techs in Virginia based on the current limitations of my 5D MkII...would be especially useful for HDR work.
According to the specifications on Canon's website for the Canon EOS 1DX (listed under Exposure Compensation), the Canon EOS 1DX has Auto Exposure Bracketing (AEB) of ±3 stops in 1/3- or 1/2-stop increments. However, the camera also allows Manual Exposure Compensation of ±5 stops in 1/3- or 1/2-stop increments. As such, although the camera will only shoot a three-bracket set, you can manually adjust the camera's exposure compensation to ±5 stops for your HDR photography needs. Although this will be slower than shooting an AEB set in burst mode, according to the current specifications Canon's webpage, this would be your only recourse. It would be recommended to have the camera on a tripod to prevent camera movement during the shots, although your subject or items in your scene may move during the time for you to shoot the full ±5 stops (total of nine separate exposures). The camera has not yet been released, so it would be best to wait closer to Canon's announced estimated March 2012 release date to see if there are any changes before then; however, until then, the above is the information presently available from Canon's specifications. For more information, you can see the following link by either clicking directly on it or by copying and pasting the link into your internet browser's address bar:
http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/slr_cameras/eos_1d_x#Specifications
According to the specifications on Canon's website for the Canon EOS 1DX (listed under Exposure Compensation), the Canon EOS 1DX has Auto Exposure Bracketing (AEB) of ±3 stops in 1/3- or 1/2-stop increments. However, the camera also allows Manual Exposure Compensation of ±5 stops in 1/3- or 1/2-stop increments. As such, although the camera will only shoot a three-bracket set, you can manually adjust the camera's exposure compensation to ±5 stops for your HDR photography needs. Although this will be slower than shooting an AEB set in burst mode, according to the current specifications Canon's webpage, this would be your only recourse. It would be recommended to have the camera on a tripod to prevent camera movement during the shots, although your subject or items in your scene may move during the time for you to shoot the full ±5 stops (total of nine separate exposures). The camera has not yet been released, so it would be best to wait closer to Canon's announced estimated March 2012 release date to see if there are any changes before then; however, until then, the above is the information presently available from Canon's specifications. For more information, you can see the following link by either clicking directly on it or by copying and pasting the link into your internet browser's address bar:
http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/slr_cameras/eos_1d_x#Specifications
Yes, I too would like to see more than 3 bracketed exposures... but there is always the Promote Control.
I read somewhere (was it B&H's product page for this item [where you'll be able to purchase the item in the future]?) that this camera will have four different settings to allow for up to nine bracketed shots. That will be great!
No it does not. It has the standard 3 frames capacity. "AEB: ±3 stops in 1/3- or 1/2-stop increments
* Indicated up to ±3 stops on the LCD panel and in the viewfinder."
How much does it weigh? Closer to the Mark III or D series?
Canon has not yet published the weight of the camera. The 1DS Mk III weighed in at 42.7 oz, and the 1D Mk IV weighs 41.6 oz, so theres a good chance this will be in similar weight range.
Now if only they could bring the weight down to the 32oz that my 1v is I'd buy it in a heart beat! I need to be able to hold my camera & 170-500 lens on a moving boat
I have always used Canon cameras. I used them because they fit my hand perfectly and perform well under any conditions. However they (Canon) loves to play with our wallets. Every time I turn around there is a new camera that is better than the last one and a year hasn't even gone by. You ask why only 18.1 pxls. It's obvious...They'll introduce this new camera and a year later they will come out with a 20 pxl camera etc etc. Its all about the money now. I can remember when the A1 was all the rave and it stayed around for years before they replaced it. And it's not just Canon, they are all doing it. And it isn't fair.. Thank you for allowing me soap box..
Unfortunately the life cycle of techno products has considerably shortened from the days of the A1. The market demands it and stagnating sales force the camera companies to deliver a never ending cycle of cutting edge products. I too fondly remember the days of the A1.
Increasing the pixel count from 18.1 to 20 megapixels would DECREASE the image quality in almost all shooting and image presentation conditions. We passed the point long ago when increasing the megapixels was a reliable way to get better-looking pictures. Selling ever more pixels is one of the top marketing hoaxes in photography, and I am glad to see Canon bucking the trend.
Practical limits to lens resolving power and image noise minimization argue for having fewer, larger pixels. For the 0.1% of photographers that really need more pixels and better-looking photographs, moving to medium format is the answer. For the best photo quality from a full-frame sensor size, using current technology (or anything likely to be on sale in the next few years in this price range), 15-18 megapixels is probably the optimum compromise.
Don't hold me to the numbers. I was just throwing them out there for the sake of a point. Also I agree with Medium Format but the expense at my age now is not only useless it is out of my reach. I am retired from the US Army since 95. I still have a Toyo 4x5. film camera and I get goose bumps when I see the results. You people have a great techno future, so read and beware. Keep up the good work.
You are correct to a degree. But as they increase the pixels they also have to make the CMOS smaller. Or it will decrease the quality of the photo. I still use a EOS 10D and it turns out great 8x10's.After I bought the 10D Six months later canon came out with the 20D. No different than the 10D except for the softwear installed. Why couldn't I get an upgrade? Because want you to buy a new camera. I would love to own a 5d MKII but I know if I do buy one in 30 days canon will come out with a the MKIII. I am thinking about going back to Film. You can get EOS 1v dirt cheap. I had one once and it took outstanding pictures and compared to digital you would have to buy a 10,000 dollar digital camera. Anyway I am tired of all the quick upgrades and the owners of previous cameras do not benefit. Maybe I am getting to old..Happy hunting everyone.
Absolutely
Agree completely and curious why other "pro" photographers out there are not making this distinction.
Does it have an articulated LCD like the 60D. Sure enjoy this feature. I am always wishing my 5DM2's had this feature.
For those who still think the number of pixels is the only image quality factor, pixel size might be more. Larger is better. Of course larger and more is even better.
No, unfortunately it does not include an articulated LCD screen such as the 60D does.
Only so much real estate on a '35mm' full frame sensor. Has to work with the current Canon lenses (focussing range), so you can only get to that 35 mm size, no larger. Compromise is always necessary in real life, and this one sounds about right to me. Print sizes will be realistic for this format.
and they call this thier TOP-GUN camera? maybe they should rethink shutter speed and 18.1 mp !!!
I am not sure that higher resolution with lesser image quality is better than 18MP image with superb quality. I upgraded from 6.3MP camera (digital rebel) to the 7D, and found out that it is not easy to get a high quality pictures in less tahn perfect conditions, the high resolution sensor allowes all sort of errors to "come alive" while the 6.3MP sensor was more foregiving.
READ- better noise levels for higher ISO.
While Canon has outpaced the "other" camera manufacturer in pixels, their lineup has had a hard time surpassing or yet matching the low noise/high iso output of a 3+ yr old 12.1 mp camera.
Point is- More pixels don't equate better quality. If you typically shoot outside in full daylight; yes, with more megapixels you have the upper hand. The moment you start shooting in low light situations, say hello to either noise or loss of details because of noise reduction. Unfortunately, all those megapixels work against you.
Especially for the price, I am impressed with what it claims to bring to the table.
I am eager to see the performance reviews of this body and it's it's long term reliability.
Happy shooting.
Has Canon finally addressed its hokey auto level for Audio when using Video mode? as they already did in the 60D? Manual over-ride of the auto level is essential for proper levels when video'ing. I am shocked they never put out a firmware upgrade for this in the Mk IV, but now I see why; its all about the $$.
The Canon EOS-1D X includes manual audio level control, adjustable both before and during movie recording, an automatic audio setting, or you can turn off audio entirely.
I wonder when NIKON Corp will produce a D4X that will emulate/equal the EOS 1DX?
CANON, with the new flagship 1DX has once again shown its mastery of the latest technology, particularly with respect to Full HD Video and stereo sound recording. I am awed beyond words.
A Nikon photographer/user
Do you know if the announced GPS accessory for this camera - the GP-E1 - will work with older cameras such as the 1-D Mark IV?
According to Canon's website the GP-E1 is only compatible with the 1DX. Hopefully there may be some firmware updates in the future to allow one to use the GPS with older models, however there is not currently any information to suggest that Canon will do that. There are plenty of aftermarket GPS devices that are compatible with the rest of the Canon DSLR's.
Below is the link to the GP-E1 on Canon USA's website for more information on it.
http://usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/gps_receivers/gps_receiver_gp_e1#Overview
Thank you for the reply Yossi.
Are you able to tell me which GPS devices will work with a 1D Mark IV? I was not aware that there were any.
Thanks :-)
The Canon 1DX has a dedicated port for the GP-E1 GPS Receiver, and is the first Canon DSLR that has built-in GPS capability. As such, it will be the only one that automatically appends location data to images, recording latitude, longitude, elevation, and uses the GPS Time Sync Function to synchronize the camera clock with a satellite and uses the electronic compass to record the camera's orientation when shooting.
While there are no GPS units that will offer all of these features to the Canon 1D Mark IV (as there is no built-in support designed into the 1D Mark IV), there ARE universal geotagging devices that you can use by simply bringing the unit along with your camera, and as long as the geotagging receiver is on, it will record your latitude/longitude coordinates (as long as the device has access to open sky to receive GPS signals from an overhead satellite - does not work indoors). As the receiver would receive its date/time from the satellite, as long as you have the correct date/time programmed into your camera (if you are travelling, be aware to change the time to correspond with the time zone you are visiting), the device would be designed to connect to your computer after you have uploaded the images to your computer, and would then append the information to your image files.
The above is how universal remotes normally work with the 1D Mark IV. It will not be done automatically at the time of capture as with the GP-E1 and 1DX, as the 1D Mark IV was not designed for GPS compatibility. However, this would be the route to take to acheive GPS geotagging with a camera that does not have built-in GPS support. To view the universal geotagging devices we carry, you can view the links below. I recommend reading the Overview and Product Details of the individual units to view the features and options they offer. For more information, you can see the following link by either clicking directly on it or by copying and pasting the link into your internet browser's address bar:
http://bhpho.to/u66yBd
http://bhpho.to/t192DB
About time... can't wait
720/60p frame rate is impressive, but I'm still waiting on engineers to give me 1080/60p on this full frame baby... then I'll be really impressed. lol
nice camera though. can't wait to order mine
Why dosen't somone like myself just write a new script for CF cards to overwrite the FAT system files so you can record more then 4gb sections. It would be a very simple process to do and every camera could run in seeing is if Canon would allow the publication of there data to the community to edit it. Anyways this looks like a nice intresting camera, price is a bit high for the normal consumer but i bet the images will look great.
What are the audio inputs?
The camera has a single stereo mini microphone input.
I like the camera spec's on this new Canon Camera......The $6,800.00 price tag is reasonable for the camera.
I like the Full Frame sensor.
I would like to Demo the camera taking a few shots in a store that carries the camera using my own CF card so I could download the images at home and really see where the rubber meets the road with this model. I hope Canon lets the camera stores near me demo one of these camera's....
Thanks
Ricky
Unbelievable min 1/30 sec
18 MP on FF with extremely low noise should be much better than higher pixels. With DSLR it is mostly about getting rid of noise or not making it in the first place. Too many pixels cause increased noise.
I trust that the great increase capability of the ISO will help to makeup for what appears to be a stupid or rediculous min 1/30 sec shutter speed.
I would like to see a new 5D Mark III with 18 MP and this ISO range or at least a true DXO tested clean ISO of 12,800 would meet my needs. An ISO of 50 with the dynamic lighting compensation would help to make up for a low syc speed of only 1/250. I would have expected 1/500 by now but something might be limiting this number. This is to help fight those bright sunny days.
Should be completely water proof for those rainy days.
2 CF's finally. I was also expecting to see a good jump in DR.
kaptnk,
Canon did announce a "5D mk iii" and it's not what I think most people are looking for! It's centered around video: http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/about_canon?pageKeyCode=pressreldetail&docId=0901e024803cf0aa
They also announced a "Digital Cinema Camera" for $20k: http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/about_canon?pageKeyCode=pressreldetail&docId=0901e024803cf0a9
For the rest of these people.... Sorry, but most people in this thread don't have any clue about MP! 18 should be enough for just about everybody on the planet! Every Nikon (exc for D3x) has around 12mp! You don't hear people complaining over there!
Bigger pixels at 18mp tells me that the "X" should be seriously amazing! I have a 5D mk ii and a 7D. I've never NOT been able to print something at a desired size (and I've done many things up to 6') because one camera is 3mp less. Shoot, I don't notice the size difference period! The quality and color (as captured) is better in the 5D, but the 3 extra mp is for the birds! I'll take less mp to get larger, better quality pixels anytime!!
Billboards and large prints/canvas etc use a much lower dpi anyway.
*People that THINK they need more mp are the ones that try to compensate for not having the proper lens by massively cropping! Effectively reducing/shrinking the overall image/quality.
There is a theoretical limit to the fastest sync speed in a focal plane shutter. The distance that the shutter travels determines the theoretical limit. For instance a 35mm full frame camera with a horizontal travel shutter has to go 50% farther than a vertical travel full frame shutter. I calculated this speed for one inch when I was 16, at under 1/370 (as long as I can recall, since I don’t want to go with the trouble of calculating it again). That was before the 1/250 shutters became available. An APS-C (with vertical travel shutter) thus can have a faster sync speed than the 1/300 maximum “Minolta” sync speeds. That is the main reason for 6x7 cm focal plane shutter having the slowest sync speeds.
Will this camera be good for wildlife photography.
Yes it will be excellent for nature/wildlife photography. Given the high burst rate speed, ISO range, and durable weather sealed design, it is one of the best models you could select for wildlife photography.
Canon,
Please stop combining video with still cameras. I hate paying for something that I am not going to use. This feature inflates the price for those of us who aren't onto video.
At least offer two models, with and with out video. You would be able to lower the prices and sell more high end cameras.
If Nikon makes this seperation first I am scrapping my Canon stuff.
I can see your point, but I am not sure that you would get a lower price. The function of the electronic chip will be almost the same, but making 2 different chips would require twice the store and also at the dealers and in the shops you would have to keep track of 2 cameras - which means increased requirement of capital in the store (increase cost).
On the other hand, if you can sell more cameras due to the extra functionality that video gives - the manufacturer will get a higher lot-size which equals lower price per chip.
What if I do not need the long shutter speeds from 1-30 seconds or the very high ISO above 1600 ISO - why should I not have the possibility the get a cheaper model of the same camera?
Stop complaining about the video function, think of it as a free option you can use of leave.
I agree, except for with changing from Canon to Nikon. I'll still stick with Canon. :-)
And, yes, they would have to produce two models (one with video capabilities and one without), as some wedding/portrait photographers do use the video part to sell videos to their clients, which is great business for them. If the price of not having video in the DSLR was substantially lower, it sure would be great to have the option to get a camera without it!
Nikon already has... http://www.nikonusa.com/Nikon-Products/Product/Digital-SLR-Cameras/25442...
Now if only they would lower their price!!
I agree. that's why I have a video camera. for videos. I heard the tv show "24" is videoed with cannon cameras. it's because you have more of a selection of lenses.
Does the autofocus work in video mode and is it silent?
As with other Canon DSLR's autofocus will not work in the video mode.
The camera shutter doesn't go below 1/30 (except Bulb)? That'll be annoying for long-exposure shots you want at a very specific time (trying to hit the shutter release button on the remote at the exact time in Bulb mode)!
I wonder why Canon made it only 18.1 MP? I was hoping their next one would be over 21 MP.
Otherwise, this looks like a great camera!
The 18mp limitation exists also in the 1DMarkIV (which I have been using for 2 years) because Canon could not get a larger sensor magnetically cleared fast enough when shooting 10 frames per second. The 1D-X shoots 12 frames per second--I suspect the same reason for this frame size.
The listing of the shutter speeds is likely a typographical error on Canon USA's part. The Canon UK site lists the shutter specifications as "30-1/8000 sec (1/2 or 1/3 stop increments) + Bulb (Shutter speed range available varies according to shooting mode)" which would offer you the 30 second time frame. Hopefully Canon USA will clarify this in the near future.
http://www.canon.co.uk/For_Home/Product_Finder/Cameras/Digital_SLR/EOS_1Dx/index.aspx?specs=1
Larger pixels with a smaller pixel count lends to better low light and High ISO capabilities, which Canon traded in favor of a higher pixel count. Higher quailty pixels are better than a larger quantity of pixels. The smaller pixel count also allows for smaller overall file sizes, which means the buffer can allow for faster burst rates, which is another main feature of this camera.
"I wonder why Canon made it only 18.1 MP?"
The larger pixels are probably a major factor in the wider ISO range. It may also be a factor in the faster drive rate--12 frames/sec, up to 14 frames/sec in "super high speed" mode. More pixels = proportionately larger files, especially in RAW. I'm not really sure what the utility of 21 MP vs 18 MP, but, if you need/want 21 MP, you can get the 5D Mk II, but you'll give up the fast drive rate and super-high ISO.
18.1 MP on a full frame senor should make for a very resolute photograph.
best regards.
I have printed large prints at 30"x40" from photos taken with my 7D (and 70-200 f/2.8L IS II) and I can vouch that 18MP is sufficient for 30"x40". I looked at it under a magnifying glass and was just BARELY able to see pixelation, and only in very high-contrast parts of the print.
Perhaps you should be looking in the Canon Rebel section.
Uh, no, as a professional photographer, I need a professional camera.
I often use shutter speeds below 1/30. And the pixel question was about the need to print on professional wide-format printers. Not everybody prints only small photos. If the bigger pixels make for fine large prints, I'll be satisfied. Like somebody else posted, it would be nice if there was a way to take home a sample shot from a store's floor sample camera so I could check out the quality and make a print on my wide-format.
From the way you talk and misunderstood the specification, you look like an amateur photographer.
I didn't misunderstand the specification - it was a typo in the article. 1/30 and 30 seconds are not the same. The article said 1/30 would be the slowest before "Bulb" in the 1D X, which would be crazy.
There is a fundamental limit to the signal/noise ratio for photon detectors: if the number of photons collected is N, the best possible signal/noise ratio is the square root of N. So if an individual detector collects ten thousand photons, the best possible signal/noise ratio is 100. Larger detector collect more photons than smaller ones. But that "best possible" is never achieved. There is an additional limit set by the capacitance of the capacitors that collect the charges generated by photon detection: an inherent noise mechanism that prevents a capacitor from being preset to an exact voltage, so there is an uncertainty (i.e., noise) in the voltage at which the capacitor starts to collect charges from photon detection. At the end of the integration time (exposrue time), that noise is superimposed on the signal voltage. Careful circuit design can mitigate this effect somewhat. But larger detectors have a larger capacitance and hence lower reset noise. When all of that is taken into account, all other things being equal, a lower resolution imager with larger detectors will have better signal/noise ratio and hence better low light performance. That is why recent Nikon DSLRs that have very good low light performance have relatively low resolution. Canon is just doing the smart thing by limiting the resolution to "only" 18.1 MP.
Before I retired this year, I worked for some 15 years designing imagers for military systems. They were for infrared imaging, not visible, but the principles are the same.
From my experiance with the 7D and my older digiral rebel, higher resolution means that more human errors enter the picture, with the rebel I could take pictures are 1/15 or even 1/10 while with the 7D it is impossible, the hand shaking and lens erores are magnified to the point you see it in the pictures. So 18.1MP is a reasonale option.
However, I am wondering why stop the sutter at 1/30. Many pictues I take are done with lower speeds, especially night shots and nature pictures where there is enough light on one hand but I also like to capture the movement of things, like streaming water for example. exanding the field of view on the expence of shooter speed in low ISO ratings.
The 18 mp sensor with the larger pixel size may well be to optimize the glasses ability to resolve.
when pixels get to small they hit a wall, that wall is the lenses ability to match the resolving capability of the sensor.
Hence Hasselblads 200 mp rig uses a 50 mp sensor.
Just use the TC-80N3 remote for those ultra long exposures. It's worked great for me for several years.
As for the 18 MP question, they appear to be looking for less noise with larger pixels and better low light performance. I shoot with a 1Ds mk II now and regularly print to 16x20 with great sharpness. My problem would be to find lenses that truly handle resolutions higher than this. I currently use Canon 85 1.2L Canon 24-70 2.8L Canon 70-200 2.8L lenses. Some of my other lenses cannot handle the current 16.7 MP resolution.
what camera have you seen has a exposure time longer then 30 seconds?? Every camera I've seen has 30 seconds and then goes to bulb. Is it really that much of a hassle for you to stop it at a certain time after 30 seconds?
1/30 is not 30 seconds.
Speed30-1/8000 sec (1/2 or 1/3 stop increments) + Bulb (Shutter speed range available varies according to shooting mode)
Think it is 30 to 1/8000 so 30 seconds. not 1/30th
Could you not just set it to bulb and use a timer to get your desired "specific time" long exposure? That's what I thought most people do...or maybe I am crazy, and only I do that...
For time exposures beyond 30 seconds you can use the Canon plug in release TC80 TN-3. With that you can set up to 99 hours automatically timed exposure and it is an intervalometer and a long time delay unit too. I use mine quite a bit
My remote shutter doesn't have a built-in timer, if that's what you meant. If you meant just hit the shutter release button when you see the timer get to a certain time, that's not exact (bad case of the trigger finger blues could mess it up). If it works for you, great! But, it doesn't work well for everyone.
Anyone who is creative with waterfall and babe long brook shots knows that exposures longer than 1/30s is critical. It's a typo guys! The
Range is really 1/8000s to 30s. There's no way Canon would stop at 1/30!
I think the 1/30th is a typo on CanonUSA's part.
CPN, Canon UK, and Canon Japan list the shutter speed as 30s - 1/8000th.
i.e. see http://cpn.canon-europe.com/content/product/cameras/eos-1d_x.do
Great! Thanks!
That's the lowest video shutter speed available. I agree they wrote it here in a confusing way. For regular photography it will likely go down to 30sec. and then you can use the Bulb for longer exposures than that.
Ah, I hope that's what it is! Thanks!
Yes, it's 30 seconds.
This should make the sports people pleased. I could care less about speed and video. I hope their next offering will blow the medium format digital cameras out of the water.
If they double the sensor size, it will ;)
Why do we buy 1DX 18MP,12FPS at $6,800.00 . Please take a look of Sony NEX-7 24PM, 12FPS, only $1,199.00 (Body only)
Can someone tell the people who isnsit that every new camera released needs to have MORE megapixels WHY we do not need them thanks!? The smaller number of megapixels on the larger sensor results in better image quality. Also, the larger files become, the more system resources photographers need to process these files? When you're processing thousands of wedding images in a batch process, this can take quite some time? Most images at 18MP taken on a good ff camera can be blown up to poster size and larger anyway... the image quality of cameras churning out anything over 18-21 MP at the moment is excellent and getting up to the levels of full frame SLR, so why the need to see higher megapixels? We just need more speed, more storage, lower ISO's please.
Anyone even needing to ask these questions is obviously not a Pro photographer and absolutely not in need of the Canon.
The Canon EOS 1DX and Sony NEX-7 cameras are two totally different beasts. The Sony is a good quality option, and has nice image quality, but a camera in the 1D series is desinged for the demanding working pro, who needs a body that is durable and will hold up under any working conditions (rain, humidity, dust etc) as well as having a much larger selection base for lenses and other technical accessories used in advanced applications. Sony does not have an option for a 400mm f2.8 lens for example. Wild life and sports photographers need that type of lens combined with the abilty to use wireless triggers for strobes and remote cameras as well as countless other possible applications.
Larger pixels with a smaller pixel count lends to better low light and High ISO capabilities, which Canon traded in favor of a higher pixel count. Higher quailty pixels are better than a larger quantity of pixels. The smaller pixel count also allows for smaller overall file sizes, which means the buffer can allow for faster burst rates, which is another main feature of this camera.
Thanks for knowing what your talking about.
In what world are you living the? The Canon is full frame camera, a real SLR; the Sony Nex 7is neither. The Sony doesn't do really high ISO well. And most important, Sony doesn't really have too many good autofocus lenses which will work with the Nex 7. For such a small mirrorless camera, the Sony's shutter is pretty loud and distracting too, unlike say a Samsung or Panasonic mirrorless camera.
Sony should have put many fewer megapixels in the Nex 7. And the A77 too.
I've heard great things from a fellow pro shooter about the Sony. I too wonder why Canon is limited it to 18mp.
My god I hope you're joking...
Why would you hope I'm joking? These are very valid questions! Not everybody only prints small photos - some of us own large-format printers - and 1/30th of a second is just wrong to be the last speed before "Bulb" (hopefully it is indeed a typo like others said it must be). Maybe you only take portraits so don't need low, exact speeds, but in other types of photography, longer shutter times are important (and using a timer to press the button yourself isn't an exact science).
I think you are reading the spec wrong. It says 1/8000 to 30 seconds NOT to 1/30th of a second.
It has been fixed since the article first came out. It did used to say 1/30.
I guess he wasn't!
Why is it cheaper than the EOS-1DS Mark III?
Most likely it is cheaper than the EOS-1DS Mark III because it has a 18 megapixel sensor instead of the EOS-1DS Mark III's 21.1 megapixel sensor
The main price differential is determined by the number of megapixels in a sensor. The higher the megapixels the more chances of rejects thus resulting in higher cost..
that is not correct.
Why should it be more expensive?
Hello,
The $6,800.00 price tag is an estimate from Canon. We'll have a better idea on pricing next year when the camera is available and shipping.